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nadinbrzezinski

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Tue Feb 23, 2016, 03:28 PM Feb 2016

Our expectations are really low [View all]

yesterday I had a very civil discussion with Recurison about jobs, (It had to to do with the race, but this is a far more general thing) And one of the things that struck me is that when factory jobs are mentioned, he went immediately to 25 cents a day in Bangladesh. First off, I think it is time to raise the pay in Bangladesh to a living wage, but that is another kettle of fish.

Good union jobs in the US are service jobs... ok currently they are likely the best we can do because we have become a low wage economy thanks to things like NAFTA, Trickle down and the deindustrialization of the country. Ok fine. how about good union jobs like FABER CASTELL in Germany? You know they still have a middle class over there.

How about Bugatti in Italy?

We have been propagandized to the point that we are willing to be satisfied with 15 dollar an hour jobs., and consider that great, when we used to have regularly 25 and 30 dollar jobs (in 1980 dollars).

Until Americans have had it with a low wage economy, the third way will continue to win this war. There is one, and the very wealthy are winning, Income innequality requires people to have an imagination and aspirations of a better life, and be willing to fight for it, and not be satisfied with low pay jobs.

And by the way, this is a union household, we love unions, but also unions have to have a wider view and demand far more.

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Our expectations are really low [View all] nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 OP
K&R..... daleanime Feb 2016 #1
K & R ...... nt Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #2
There is no third way. It was temporary and died over a decade ago. Hortensis Feb 2016 #3
Yes there is one nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #4
As a movement it reached its zenith during Hortensis Feb 2016 #12
Well these days they might go by No Labels nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #13
Umhm. But where are they? People who want Hortensis Feb 2016 #15
Might be, but these guys have just changed spots nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #16
No. There is NO significant "third way" faction! Kaput! Hortensis Feb 2016 #17
Yet we have a third way candidate running for President nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #18
It is clear that that would require a whole paradigm shift. Hortensis Feb 2016 #21
What do you think would be a living wage dumbcat Feb 2016 #5
Since I do not have access to their economic numbers I do not know nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #6
A 4000 percent increase? dumbcat Feb 2016 #8
I am sure their owners would not nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #9
It's not a question of low wage or high wage HappyinLA Feb 2016 #7
AsI said, we have very low expectations nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #10
March to demand what? HappyinLA Feb 2016 #11
The way the global economy is taking shape nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #14
Trump has an answer. Unilateral walls and tariffs. Make the US an island against the world. pampango Feb 2016 #22
It is how the global economy is getting put together that will lead to revolutions nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #23
I am not sure how you 'put together a global economy' any better than FDR tried to do with his ITO pampango Feb 2016 #24
What will drive some of this will be global climate change nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #25
You will take your tiny house and like it Arazi Feb 2016 #19
On a whole separate matter, the tiny house movement nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #20
K&R! Thanks Nadin! haikugal Feb 2016 #26
Labor must put more effort into going global. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #27
I have made that precise point to labor leaders in both Mexico and the United States nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #28
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