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pampango

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24. I am not sure how you 'put together a global economy' any better than FDR tried to do with his ITO
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 05:57 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Tue Feb 23, 2016, 06:40 PM - Edit history (1)

and it seems like no one likes that idea. Multilateral governance of trade seems as unpopular on the left now as it has been for a long time on the far-right.

Trump (and Coolidge/Hoover who came before him) would have a world of 200 country-islands each limiting trade with OTHERS who are out to do US harm. FDR and many others believed that the experience of the 1920's proved that does not work. He tried to set up a trading organization that would take the setting and governing of trading rules out of the hands of national governments since, in his view, history showed that governments always reacted to economic problems (and corporate lobbying) by imposing tariffs on THEM (who are neither voters nor campaign donors).

I do tend to agree that a 'revolution' will come. Krugman has pointed out that the world has gone through the cycle of protectionism (usually republicans) to globalization (usually Democrats) back to protectionism and back to globalization several times before. I suspect that many on the right (certainly Trump's supporters) and some on the left are ready for a return to protectionism (or nationalism, if you prefer) and to solve our economic problems by putting tariffs on stuff THEY send us. So the cycle will continue. Call that continuing cycle a 'revolution' if you want.

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Our expectations are really low [View all] nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 OP
K&R..... daleanime Feb 2016 #1
K & R ...... nt Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #2
There is no third way. It was temporary and died over a decade ago. Hortensis Feb 2016 #3
Yes there is one nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #4
As a movement it reached its zenith during Hortensis Feb 2016 #12
Well these days they might go by No Labels nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #13
Umhm. But where are they? People who want Hortensis Feb 2016 #15
Might be, but these guys have just changed spots nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #16
No. There is NO significant "third way" faction! Kaput! Hortensis Feb 2016 #17
Yet we have a third way candidate running for President nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #18
It is clear that that would require a whole paradigm shift. Hortensis Feb 2016 #21
What do you think would be a living wage dumbcat Feb 2016 #5
Since I do not have access to their economic numbers I do not know nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #6
A 4000 percent increase? dumbcat Feb 2016 #8
I am sure their owners would not nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #9
It's not a question of low wage or high wage HappyinLA Feb 2016 #7
AsI said, we have very low expectations nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #10
March to demand what? HappyinLA Feb 2016 #11
The way the global economy is taking shape nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #14
Trump has an answer. Unilateral walls and tariffs. Make the US an island against the world. pampango Feb 2016 #22
It is how the global economy is getting put together that will lead to revolutions nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #23
I am not sure how you 'put together a global economy' any better than FDR tried to do with his ITO pampango Feb 2016 #24
What will drive some of this will be global climate change nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #25
You will take your tiny house and like it Arazi Feb 2016 #19
On a whole separate matter, the tiny house movement nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #20
K&R! Thanks Nadin! haikugal Feb 2016 #26
Labor must put more effort into going global. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #27
I have made that precise point to labor leaders in both Mexico and the United States nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #28
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