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In reply to the discussion: If you are surprised that Trump won Nevada [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)43. The link of Trump and the European far-right is apt. "To understand Donald Trump, look to Europe."
To understand Donald Trump, look to Europe

The leader of the Dutch far-right Freedom Party (PVV), Geert Wilders, is seen during a visit to Washington, D.C.
in April. Wilders has advocated closing Dutch borders to stop what he has called an "Islamic invasion."
True, Trump's naked appeals to nativist, anti-immigrant populism have parallels in American history, from Pat Buchanan in the 1990s to George Wallace in the 1960s and 1970s to Millard Fillmore's Know-Nothing Party in the 1850s. (Trump) has totally ignored the Planned Parenthood undercover video controversy; and he has been griping about foreign trade since the 1980s (then it was Japan, now China).
In a European context, Trump would fit more comfortably. Many countries on the European continent pursue a consensus politics of the center-left and center-right. The moderates in power support a generous social-welfare state and more business regulation than Americans would accept, marginalize religious social-issue conservatives, and ignore crime and immigration.
By shunting so many issues beyond the pale of the mainstream, the elite fuel right-wing populist parties. Leaders like Geert Wilders in Holland, Marine Le Pen in France and their counterparts in Poland, Sweden, Belgium and Hungary give vent to the anxieties that establishment politicians would rather pretend did not exist. Accordingly, like conservatives in the United States, they stress security, including border security. But reflecting their working-class constituencies, European right-wing parties are often more anti-business, anti-trade and pro-social-welfare than American Democrats, let alone American Republicans.
The European right wing traces its heritage in part to the old monarchists. Yet its populist leaders also echo mid-20th century dictators such as Mussolini and Hitler, who were simultaneously violent nationalists and self-proclaimed socialists who disdained individual rights and sought domination over private business and Christian churches. ... In that sense, Trump's anti-immigrant, anti-trade, Make America great again nationalism may not be un-conservative, but it is literally un-American. It lacks the reverence for America's founding principles and the Lincolnesque concern for individual rights to life and liberty that have long called American conservatives to the more hopeful better angels of our nature.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-1215-mclaughlin-trump-european-nationalist-20151215-story.html
I wonder if Trump is a student of modern (and historical) RW European populist politicians and sees in their recent successes a pattern for him to follow here. Or if he is just the latest in a long history of American "nativist, anti-immigration" populists (like "Pat Buchanan in the 1990s to George Wallace in the 1960s and 1970s to ... the Know-Nothing Party in the 1850's"
.
It would seem that Donald and Geert share the same hair dresser.
The leader of the Dutch far-right Freedom Party (PVV), Geert Wilders, is seen during a visit to Washington, D.C.
in April. Wilders has advocated closing Dutch borders to stop what he has called an "Islamic invasion."
True, Trump's naked appeals to nativist, anti-immigrant populism have parallels in American history, from Pat Buchanan in the 1990s to George Wallace in the 1960s and 1970s to Millard Fillmore's Know-Nothing Party in the 1850s. (Trump) has totally ignored the Planned Parenthood undercover video controversy; and he has been griping about foreign trade since the 1980s (then it was Japan, now China).
In a European context, Trump would fit more comfortably. Many countries on the European continent pursue a consensus politics of the center-left and center-right. The moderates in power support a generous social-welfare state and more business regulation than Americans would accept, marginalize religious social-issue conservatives, and ignore crime and immigration.
By shunting so many issues beyond the pale of the mainstream, the elite fuel right-wing populist parties. Leaders like Geert Wilders in Holland, Marine Le Pen in France and their counterparts in Poland, Sweden, Belgium and Hungary give vent to the anxieties that establishment politicians would rather pretend did not exist. Accordingly, like conservatives in the United States, they stress security, including border security. But reflecting their working-class constituencies, European right-wing parties are often more anti-business, anti-trade and pro-social-welfare than American Democrats, let alone American Republicans.
The European right wing traces its heritage in part to the old monarchists. Yet its populist leaders also echo mid-20th century dictators such as Mussolini and Hitler, who were simultaneously violent nationalists and self-proclaimed socialists who disdained individual rights and sought domination over private business and Christian churches. ... In that sense, Trump's anti-immigrant, anti-trade, Make America great again nationalism may not be un-conservative, but it is literally un-American. It lacks the reverence for America's founding principles and the Lincolnesque concern for individual rights to life and liberty that have long called American conservatives to the more hopeful better angels of our nature.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-1215-mclaughlin-trump-european-nationalist-20151215-story.html
I wonder if Trump is a student of modern (and historical) RW European populist politicians and sees in their recent successes a pattern for him to follow here. Or if he is just the latest in a long history of American "nativist, anti-immigration" populists (like "Pat Buchanan in the 1990s to George Wallace in the 1960s and 1970s to ... the Know-Nothing Party in the 1850's"
It would seem that Donald and Geert share the same hair dresser.
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I wasn't surprised, I was surprised it took this long. Occupy kick started it.
LiberalArkie
Feb 2016
#126
I have had the debate whether it was OWS or the student revolt in 2009
nadinbrzezinski
Feb 2016
#129
I think it was OWS, it hit the news enough for people to start to realize how screwed over
LiberalArkie
Feb 2016
#134
I would image it would get heavy. But once they invent the portable fusion power supply....
LiberalArkie
Feb 2016
#143
Hillary will not break him, and this isn't a dig against her, but rather that millions and millions
RKP5637
Feb 2016
#80
Exactly, she is seen by millions as part of the establishment problem, and they want to dump the
RKP5637
Feb 2016
#88
"... the majority of Americans (Dems/Repubs) are against the TPP." From what polls?
pampango
Feb 2016
#44
That is quite likely. It may well be that Democrats generally support engagement with the world -
pampango
Feb 2016
#68
Well said! The DNC and DWS solution is to provide the SOS again. They totally have blinders on
RKP5637
Feb 2016
#86
Existential crisis...that nails it. Hillary's expiration date has passed. Enough is Enough. Both
libdem4life
Feb 2016
#73
Thanks for the link. Long read, but explains exactly what I see. If it's not Bernie, it's Trump.
libdem4life
Feb 2016
#91
That's when I don't get this "one post only"...many of us do not stay at our computers
libdem4life
Feb 2016
#96
trump personifies the tea party. they've taken over the republicans completely if he wins
craigmatic
Feb 2016
#20
The link of Trump and the European far-right is apt. "To understand Donald Trump, look to Europe."
pampango
Feb 2016
#43
I keep thinking that some encouraged Trump to run because they assumed he could beat
djean111
Feb 2016
#67
I'd like to know what was discussed in that meeting with Bill that Trump had, right before he
djean111
Feb 2016
#82
Unfortunately, there is a real "deer in the headlights" quality to the Hillary campaign.
highprincipleswork
Feb 2016
#79
2016 well might be one of those seismic events that often occur in the history of countries.
RKP5637
Feb 2016
#84
I predicted on DU after he gave his announcement speech he would be the Republican nominee
JCMach1
Feb 2016
#90
I'm not. Leaving aside the content of what he's saying, he's way more exciting to watch than
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2016
#104
I said a while back that Trump has gone well past "flirting" with fascism
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2016
#113
The thing is, the kabuki theater has just been too obvious over the last 16 years.
Marr
Feb 2016
#105
I'll tell you who is partly to blame, also. The "YOU CANT SAY THAT!" wing of the left.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2016
#106
I think so. Frankly, I watched his victory speeches and got a sick feeling inside
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2016
#111
we underestimate him, because we think he is one of 'them'...them being the very people
islandmkl
Feb 2016
#117