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Cats Against Frist

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22. Maybe my net is a little smaller than some that are further left than me

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:34 AM

Mar 2016

So, I might be socially liberal and fiscally slightly more conservative. And there might be people, like yourself, who believe in a bigger safety net -- those people have always been Democrats.

I'm saying that there's a huge contingent in my circle of FAR LEFT democrats -- people who have always been there, but now seem to be like blanketly stupid about the history of socialism. And I understand democratic socialism vs. socialism -- or maybe I don't, because it seems like kind of a canard -- same guns pointed at your forehead, just by vote, right?

Bernie wants me to pay $15000k more in taxes each year. I already have health insurance. I have saved for my son's college education. He's not going to Harvard either. We'll be borrowing the max in student loans and he'll use his college fund to go to a state school. Just like my ass did. Just like what I'm paying off now.

I'm talking about hand-ups, not handouts. Is this no longer a thing?

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Can I just say "Because I'm not a socialist?" [View all] Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 OP

"hard core socialism"? "social engineering and a Stalin-sized body count"? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #1

OMG!! haikugal Mar 2016 #2

It's been a while since we had a good old fashioned red baiting thread. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #3

Must be an itch that must be scratched... haikugal Mar 2016 #4

+1 This made me laugh. Thanks! octoberlib Mar 2016 #35

We are not left authoritarians. We are quite the opposite. Left, for sure, but not authoritarian. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #5

The people that I'm around are left authoritarians Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #8

Yeah, that sounds dangerously close to Republican to me. We just differ on what is social justice. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #10

But Welfare Reform WASN'T Republican Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #11

Democrats fought to preserve and enhance social safety nets until that fateful presidency when they Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #15

Maybe my net is a little smaller than some that are further left than me Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #22

Well coming from Canada originally we've got socialism figured out... CdnExtraNational Mar 2016 #27

Welfare reform was Republican schtick that B. Clinton cheerfully coopted. eShirl Mar 2016 #43

I get it. You think young people are stupid octoberlib Mar 2016 #37

I am equally agog Fairgo Mar 2016 #40

Well, for starters, you might want to dial back the Red Baiting just a tad. HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #50

I'm not intentionally trying to do something like that Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #6

I don't think you sound liberal. Marrah_G Mar 2016 #57

Translation: You got yours and fuck the rest of us. LeftyMom Mar 2016 #7

So, because I'm not a socialist, it's "fuck the rest of you?" Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #9

You're really not good at this. LeftyMom Mar 2016 #18

You're not from the "logic and reason are for cis white men" camp, are you? n/t Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #19

Logic is awesome. Do you want me to recommend a book so you can learn it? LeftyMom Mar 2016 #21

I'm a woman and I have an advanced degree in political science. And you wouldn't be an ageist, would Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #23

You have a degree in poli-sci, yet throw around the "socialist" label so cavalierly ? King_Klonopin Mar 2016 #30

Can't I still believe in capitalism with regulations and a safety net? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2016 #12

Back in my day, that wasn't called "socialism." n/t Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #13

Yeah, it was called the Democratic Party. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2016 #16

Precisely! It wasn't called leftist either. Bluedogs shifted the center. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #17

My impression is that the far left ate the candy bar all the way up to the center Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #20

Yep shenmue Mar 2016 #14

As long as I can call myself a Left Libertarian. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #24

If you really think that the Democratic Party has gone "too far left".... Wounded Bear Mar 2016 #25

1950 called. They want their rabid anti communism back. CBGLuthier Mar 2016 #26

Do you think Social Security should remain? SheilaT Mar 2016 #28

What you're describing wanting is what Sanders is running on and Hillary opposes as unobtainable. Chan790 Mar 2016 #29

This belongs in the GD -P forum. nt cwydro Mar 2016 #31

Wrong forum to put down Democratic candidates Democat Mar 2016 #32

In other words "I've got mine." CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #33

Someone loves their Bush tax cuts RandiFan1290 Mar 2016 #34

I lulz'd KG Mar 2016 #36

As another poster responded: Shankapotomus Mar 2016 #38

Where do you find these left authoritarians? unc70 Mar 2016 #39

If you use any public goods, you sure the hell are a socialist eridani Mar 2016 #41

You can be both a socialist AND a capitalist! FrodosPet Mar 2016 #44

Markets have nothing to do with ownership of the means of production eridani Mar 2016 #46

The socialist Obama has done a number of good things eridani Mar 2016 #42

Bootstraps! DLevine Mar 2016 #45

I almost spit my coffee all over the screen kdmorris Mar 2016 #51

Well "hard core socialism" got us the NHS here, among other things - mr blur Mar 2016 #47

Who the fuck is advocating HARD CORE SOCIALISM? mhatrw Mar 2016 #48

When did it become ok to make socialism just as dirty a word as democratic? avebury Mar 2016 #49

AMERICA IS ALREADY A SOCIALIST NATION BlandGrenade Mar 2016 #52

You are hilarious and sound very needful and frightened of loss. It is also sad to read any post by Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #53

Do your friends and associates have a good sense of humor or Vinca Mar 2016 #54

We'll see about that madokie Mar 2016 #55

Your post made me laugh Marrah_G Mar 2016 #56

So you don't use libraries or public schools or social security or tap water, I take it Doctor_J Mar 2016 #58

Locking... BooScout Mar 2016 #59