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Wounded Bear

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25. If you really think that the Democratic Party has gone "too far left"....

Reply to Cats Against Frist (Original post)

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:22 AM

Mar 2016

there's not much we can do for you around here. I kind of understand what you're saying, and I'm not in total disagreement, but I don't think there are that many "authoritarian socialists" around here. That would be more akin to communism.

Bernie isn't really that far to the left, and the only thing he is trying to 'socialize' IIRC is medical delivery. I don't want to get lost in a semantic battle about the definitions, but just because you think your friends want to follow "The Shining Path" doesn't mean that represents the beliefs of most Bernie-bots.

It's just that the Republican lite, DLC line of the Democratic Party is getting old to a lot of us, and no longer represents many of the values we think the Dem party should be about.

The Party has not gone too far left, that's propaganda from the RW echo chamber, worthy of Fox News or hate radio, not of a discussion around here.

Make no mistake, I'll take Hillary over any Repub, but she's my fall back, not as bad as the Republican position.

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Can I just say "Because I'm not a socialist?" [View all] Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 OP

"hard core socialism"? "social engineering and a Stalin-sized body count"? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #1

OMG!! haikugal Mar 2016 #2

It's been a while since we had a good old fashioned red baiting thread. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #3

Must be an itch that must be scratched... haikugal Mar 2016 #4

+1 This made me laugh. Thanks! octoberlib Mar 2016 #35

We are not left authoritarians. We are quite the opposite. Left, for sure, but not authoritarian. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #5

The people that I'm around are left authoritarians Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #8

Yeah, that sounds dangerously close to Republican to me. We just differ on what is social justice. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #10

But Welfare Reform WASN'T Republican Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #11

Democrats fought to preserve and enhance social safety nets until that fateful presidency when they Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #15

Maybe my net is a little smaller than some that are further left than me Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #22

Well coming from Canada originally we've got socialism figured out... CdnExtraNational Mar 2016 #27

Welfare reform was Republican schtick that B. Clinton cheerfully coopted. eShirl Mar 2016 #43

I get it. You think young people are stupid octoberlib Mar 2016 #37

I am equally agog Fairgo Mar 2016 #40

Well, for starters, you might want to dial back the Red Baiting just a tad. HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #50

I'm not intentionally trying to do something like that Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #6

I don't think you sound liberal. Marrah_G Mar 2016 #57

Translation: You got yours and fuck the rest of us. LeftyMom Mar 2016 #7

So, because I'm not a socialist, it's "fuck the rest of you?" Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #9

You're really not good at this. LeftyMom Mar 2016 #18

You're not from the "logic and reason are for cis white men" camp, are you? n/t Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #19

Logic is awesome. Do you want me to recommend a book so you can learn it? LeftyMom Mar 2016 #21

I'm a woman and I have an advanced degree in political science. And you wouldn't be an ageist, would Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #23

You have a degree in poli-sci, yet throw around the "socialist" label so cavalierly ? King_Klonopin Mar 2016 #30

Can't I still believe in capitalism with regulations and a safety net? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2016 #12

Back in my day, that wasn't called "socialism." n/t Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #13

Yeah, it was called the Democratic Party. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2016 #16

Precisely! It wasn't called leftist either. Bluedogs shifted the center. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #17

My impression is that the far left ate the candy bar all the way up to the center Cats Against Frist Mar 2016 #20

Yep shenmue Mar 2016 #14

As long as I can call myself a Left Libertarian. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #24

If you really think that the Democratic Party has gone "too far left".... Wounded Bear Mar 2016 #25

1950 called. They want their rabid anti communism back. CBGLuthier Mar 2016 #26

Do you think Social Security should remain? SheilaT Mar 2016 #28

What you're describing wanting is what Sanders is running on and Hillary opposes as unobtainable. Chan790 Mar 2016 #29

This belongs in the GD -P forum. nt cwydro Mar 2016 #31

Wrong forum to put down Democratic candidates Democat Mar 2016 #32

In other words "I've got mine." CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #33

Someone loves their Bush tax cuts RandiFan1290 Mar 2016 #34

I lulz'd KG Mar 2016 #36

As another poster responded: Shankapotomus Mar 2016 #38

Where do you find these left authoritarians? unc70 Mar 2016 #39

If you use any public goods, you sure the hell are a socialist eridani Mar 2016 #41

You can be both a socialist AND a capitalist! FrodosPet Mar 2016 #44

Markets have nothing to do with ownership of the means of production eridani Mar 2016 #46

The socialist Obama has done a number of good things eridani Mar 2016 #42

Bootstraps! DLevine Mar 2016 #45

I almost spit my coffee all over the screen kdmorris Mar 2016 #51

Well "hard core socialism" got us the NHS here, among other things - mr blur Mar 2016 #47

Who the fuck is advocating HARD CORE SOCIALISM? mhatrw Mar 2016 #48

When did it become ok to make socialism just as dirty a word as democratic? avebury Mar 2016 #49

AMERICA IS ALREADY A SOCIALIST NATION BlandGrenade Mar 2016 #52

You are hilarious and sound very needful and frightened of loss. It is also sad to read any post by Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #53

Do your friends and associates have a good sense of humor or Vinca Mar 2016 #54

We'll see about that madokie Mar 2016 #55

Your post made me laugh Marrah_G Mar 2016 #56

So you don't use libraries or public schools or social security or tap water, I take it Doctor_J Mar 2016 #58

Locking... BooScout Mar 2016 #59