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76. Right. The 99% will soon be obsolete. nt

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Why do people say we need more immigrants? Robots are the future. [View all] LittleBlue Mar 2016 OP

Our culture, based on work as the measure of value to society, is laughably unprepared phantom power Mar 2016 #1

A new age of freedom NowSam Mar 2016 #2

Yes. We need to focus on a new model LittleBlue Mar 2016 #6

The deals they are setting up are for a few years at a time and not immigration. Baobab Mar 2016 #37

A new age of starvation Warpy Mar 2016 #56

Only if there's basic income and universal healthcare shrike Mar 2016 #81

Who needs people at all? Old Union Guy Mar 2016 #3

+1 tk2kewl Mar 2016 #31

Robots at least at the beginning wont have feelings or needs to impress other robots so they can Baobab Mar 2016 #40

Pets or meat Baobab Mar 2016 #55

Really?: "They won't contribute unless they're highly skilled workers." FSogol Mar 2016 #4

Okay. You disagree. Explain why. LittleBlue Mar 2016 #8

Your robot revolution is still far away outside of maufacturing. Couching anti-immigration thoughts FSogol Mar 2016 #9

Did you watch the video or read the article? LittleBlue Mar 2016 #10

Do you really think all the companies that cry about paying $8 per hour are going to invest in FSogol Mar 2016 #11

These robots will be much cheaper than $8 an hour LittleBlue Mar 2016 #12

It would be a bad investment since most companies would not have enough work FSogol Mar 2016 #13

For those companies that don't need 24 hour work LittleBlue Mar 2016 #14

Still don't see it. Many unskilled jobs require decision making skills. Robots are far from that.n/t FSogol Mar 2016 #15

That is computers strong point, making decisions, fast. Baobab Mar 2016 #54

Not every low skill job follows a script. Look at the welding shop I posisted. FSogol Mar 2016 #61

You may not realize, your anecdote about welding is a creative job. Matt_R Mar 2016 #84

conomics of scale means that most companies will not have any facilities they will contract out for Baobab Mar 2016 #57

I think many people in this thread have a very limited idea of what low skill labor does in FSogol Mar 2016 #62

Do you know about the pulrilateral Trade in Services Agreement almost completed in Geneva? Baobab Mar 2016 #63

You have steered so far from the OP's anti-immigrant message that I have no FSogol Mar 2016 #64

I'm not anti immigrant. TiSA is what this is really about, and GATS Baobab Mar 2016 #65

OP means original poster (Hint that wasn't you) FSogol Mar 2016 #66

No, immigrants are being set up to be blamed for something else Baobab Mar 2016 #71

Unless they are being blamed for being robots, you should reread post #66. n/t FSogol Mar 2016 #72

Ive known about that coming for 4/5 of my life, what i am describing is TPTB's totally imappropriate Baobab Mar 2016 #74

Do you know about the myth of El Dorado, that was told to the Spanish Conquistadores? Baobab Mar 2016 #67

Do you know that smashing up a ripe banana and adding it to waffle batter makes FSogol Mar 2016 #69

The new Raspberry Pi that sells for $5 has been perpetually out of stock! Baobab Mar 2016 #51

Startups might decide to use robots Shankapotomus Mar 2016 #32

Oh hell yeah...Humans need not apply (Must watch) ghostsinthemachine Mar 2016 #52

Probably depends on the industry Bradical79 Mar 2016 #79

The video really doesn't show that Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #18

Uhm... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #22

Bet you I can find lawns it can't handle that humans can Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #35

Here's one who can cook 2000 meals on sale in 2017 LittleBlue Mar 2016 #25

Claiming that you will be on sale in 2017 Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #34

The robot is still in its infancy. It wouldn't work in the real world. Oneironaut Mar 2016 #19

The self-checkout at super markets is the new model LittleBlue Mar 2016 #46

Why do you assume they get jobs? Baobab Mar 2016 #58

Until now, machines haven't been sophisticated enough to do anything other than LittleBlue Mar 2016 #60

Suppose you were right, or even if there was no AI at all Baobab Mar 2016 #82

Self-checkout is nowhere near as complicated, however. Oneironaut Mar 2016 #77

To continue with the retail example Bradical79 Mar 2016 #80

In 20 years, a majority of people who now would be going to school will be discouraged by the risks Baobab Mar 2016 #41

I would guess it's because The2ndWheel Mar 2016 #5

Thats what's changed. many countries are shrinking. Baobab Mar 2016 #42

We use immigrant labor for every skill level. Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #7

Its much more complicated than that, also they are not immigrants Baobab Mar 2016 #43

Cui bono? Who profits? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #16

We are still a LONG way off from replacing humans with robots Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #17

Long way off is next year, at least for a chef robot... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #21

I am in the tech biz Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #26

Factory floors are a controlled environment... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #30

Under ideal conditions Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #36

Here's what an Amazon warehouse looks like right now: Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #38

You make my point Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #68

I think you underestimate the technological progress being made... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #73

Again, I have worked in technology my entire adult life Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #75

You will be surprised i think. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #24

Humanoid robots are probably 1% and the web is 99% Baobab Mar 2016 #44

Agreed, Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #59

I don't see where "highly skilled" workers would be immune, AI agents are already... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #20

Robots let you keep those icky brown people where they belong mwrguy Mar 2016 #23

Stupid argument LittleBlue Mar 2016 #27

Of course the west should take refugees mwrguy Mar 2016 #28

Slovenia just closed its borders LittleBlue Mar 2016 #29

Liberals do take refugees because conservatives never will. Our republicans and the far-right in pampango Mar 2016 #33

Google "progressive liberalisation" Baobab Mar 2016 #47

I was responding to a post "Of course the west should take refugees'. pampango Mar 2016 #49

when I read their stories I want to help them. I am sure I'm not the only one. Baobab Mar 2016 #50

one hundred years from now, what will matter is what planet somebody is from Baobab Mar 2016 #45

We need the immigrants to record the robots' voice menus. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2016 #39

No, thats done by software developers and only takes a few seconds. Baobab Mar 2016 #48

Demand. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #53

I think this technology is just the initial scouting party into the territory of robotics. chade Mar 2016 #70

Right. The 99% will soon be obsolete. nt valerief Mar 2016 #76

This promises to shrink demand faster than a snowball in an oven. HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #78

Perhaps the point is that the immigrants need us? Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #83