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PeoViejo

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106. Actually, He didn't matter much in the equation.

Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:15 PM

Apr 2016

Let me tell you the true story of how Iran-Contra came about.

A CIA Officer who was involved with the Central America Task Force went to the CIA Inspector General with information about financial improprieties, regarding illegal payments to people of influence in Honduras. Bill Casey, being an Attorney of some experience, knew that
he could go to prison as a result. He panicked , and as a result, Poppy took the program away from CIA and gave it to Oliver North. The rest is History.

The Boys knew that Casey would likely crack and turn Stool Pigeon. There was no way, they were going to let that happen.

The CIA Officer knew that stopping the War in Central America was impossible. After all, Orders is Orders, but financial mis-dealings with Discretionary Funds was a Career-killer.
You ask me how I know this?: I was there and watched the whole thing go down from the inside.

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Why was Reagan not impeached for Iran Contra? [View all] gabeana Mar 2016 OP

It is a club, and you sure as hell are not part of it. But if you wanna feel really left Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #1

Nah I will vote for Hillary gabeana Mar 2016 #3

Impeached and jailed. But he wasnt because of that club you talk about, funny Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #8

Thats not me gabeana Mar 2016 #13

Because All Faith In Our System Would've Vanished billhicks76 Mar 2016 #75

It is a club and RW Dems like Lee Hamilton are just as much a part as Reagan. Perhaps more. leveymg Mar 2016 #65

Hamilton let Reagan off the hook then Dubya & Dick Cheney MinM Mar 2016 #73

Exactly. That's why he's the go-to guy for bipartisan whitewash. leveymg Mar 2016 #76

George H. Walker Bush and the 1980 �October Surprise� Mystery MinM Apr 2016 #93

Because Reagan went on television and confessed to trading arms for hostages Tony_FLADEM Mar 2016 #2

That's it gabeana Mar 2016 #5

That's how I preceive it. Tony_FLADEM Mar 2016 #12

My recollection is that he said he couldn't remember. jhart3333 Mar 2016 #70

Actually that was part of it Dan Mar 2016 #77

There was discussion even while he was in office kskiska Apr 2016 #94

So if I rob a bank and then admit it, can I get off too? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #9

I didn't say I agreed with Reagan not being impeached for Iran Contra Tony_FLADEM Mar 2016 #14

"My heart and my best intentions still tell me that is true. But the facts and the evidence StevieM Mar 2016 #28

And Ollie North agreed to be the fall guy. uppityperson Mar 2016 #31

Oliver North sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #57

Except he didn't admit to any wrongdoing. Not really. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #102

No he didn't, he just said, "Good Gosh, I've just been informed ...." L. Coyote Mar 2016 #63

disarming to anyone who was a fucking gullipble idiot Skittles Mar 2016 #81

The Democrats were afraid to go after Saint Ronnie. At times Democrats can be craven. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #4

They knew what his mental capacity was and also knew and feared the BFEE behind the scenes. libtodeath Mar 2016 #6

Sorry don't know what BFEE means gabeana Mar 2016 #11

Bush Family Evil Empire grasswire Mar 2016 #16

Bush Family Evil Empire. libtodeath Mar 2016 #17

Cool I like it gabeana Mar 2016 #18

People nowadays only view Poppy Bush as the better Bush - he was pure evil and blm Mar 2016 #46

It's a family tradition dating back generations dflprincess Mar 2016 #72

Poppy was good at hiding his evil ways. PeoViejo Apr 2016 #101

The media was uncomfortable with it - they knew then he was showing signs of serious blm Mar 2016 #7

Precisely DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #32

Pretty sure the governor was told to look the other way - blm Mar 2016 #43

Where did he get that nickname Poppy? DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #51

Nope - opium drug trade. blm Mar 2016 #53

Care to explain? DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #55

heheh...Poppy was CIA since the 60s. blm Mar 2016 #56

Oh I see. DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #59

No, it was for turning America into a plutocracy. Rex Mar 2016 #79

Took this nation off its path of citizen democracy and put it on the road towards full-on fascism. blm Mar 2016 #92

I"ve often wondered why Mena is the one part of Clinton's past that the most rabid Repubs wouldn't Boomerproud Mar 2016 #47

**This** 4nic8em Mar 2016 #35

and I think IranContra is one of the reasons she hated GHWBush so much. blm Mar 2016 #44

His illness started way before that mdbl Mar 2016 #58

Because the investigations finished in 1987, and jeff47 Mar 2016 #10

At the time, one news correspondent opined that the U. S. populace "gave him a pass." John1956PA Mar 2016 #15

Mena Arkansas? Politicalboi Mar 2016 #19

Haven't you heard Chris Matthews talk about the good old days? dogman Mar 2016 #20

Reagan got more from a Democratic congress 1939 Mar 2016 #27

Got more? UtahJosh Mar 2016 #87

Two major income tax cuts specifically 1939 Mar 2016 #88

Ford's pardon of Nixon for Watergate set the precedent. muntrv Mar 2016 #21

No 24/7 media coverage or social media back then. grossproffit Mar 2016 #22

What I understand is they questioned him about it and he didn't know anything..this was shraby Mar 2016 #23

Plausible deniability oberliner Mar 2016 #24

Iran-Contra Hearings 1939 Mar 2016 #25

Did you miss the perjury? Kingofalldems Mar 2016 #30

Did they indict Poindexter for perjury? NT 1939 Mar 2016 #36

I thought one of the charges against North was perjury. Kingofalldems Mar 2016 #71

Years later George W. Bush gave Poindexter a job in the War on Terror after 9/11 StevieM Mar 2016 #34

Right. Poindexter made sure the trail (apparently) ended with him, unlike the Watergate hearings, Mc Mike Mar 2016 #37

Poindexter fell on his sword for Reagan 1939 Mar 2016 #38

Their entire party is a bunch of slimy, sneaky felons, apparently. Mc Mike Mar 2016 #45

By that time the old man was already failing and it was jwirr Mar 2016 #26

Years ago I heard a NPR interview with Lawrence Walsh, the Independent Counsel csziggy Mar 2016 #42

Short answer: Democrats too chickenshit. villager Mar 2016 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #33

It may have been considered an unwinnable fight struggle4progress Mar 2016 #39

Because imbeciles believed his grandpa act that he "didn't know anything about it" tabasco Mar 2016 #40

Actually, He didn't matter much in the equation. PeoViejo Apr 2016 #106

His grandpa act put a friendly face on the mafia that was running the country. tabasco Apr 2016 #109

Remembering Lines PeoViejo Apr 2016 #110

Impeachment is something only Republicans focus on. liberal N proud Mar 2016 #41

Some links to read Solly Mack Mar 2016 #48

Because William Casey, the person that authorized the weapons for hostages... Lochloosa Mar 2016 #49

People that knew too much PeoViejo Apr 2016 #103

spell rtracey Mar 2016 #50

He was given a pass for being senile ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2016 #52

Reagan was suffering from dementia. Bush Sr. was in all likelihood the real President. jalan48 Mar 2016 #54

Abetting after the fact. In a Just world many people of both parties JEB Mar 2016 #60

He and a lot of his cabinet used the now famous "I can't recall" defense under questioning.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #61

Because they knew in advance to make sure he couldn't be. No one implicated him. L. Coyote Mar 2016 #62

When prosecutor Walsh (a Republican) realized how advanced Reagan's alzheimer's was he decided ... raindaddy Mar 2016 #64

Because then, as now, the dc dems are gutless appeasers. Every republican president since Nixon Doctor_J Mar 2016 #66

Adm. Poindexter and Plausible Deniability. WheelWalker Mar 2016 #67

Because the Democrtatic establishment did not want to. JHB Mar 2016 #68

Very disturbing gabeana Mar 2016 #80

IOKIYAR. pansypoo53219 Mar 2016 #69

In the nineties Dems did Thespian2 Mar 2016 #74

Can I mention a Joe Biden-chaired hearing in the 90s? Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2016 #83

Thanks Thespian2 Mar 2016 #86

He should have been HassleCat Mar 2016 #78

The Democratic Congress didn't exactly have much animosity towards Reagan. Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #82

Reagan DENIED KNOWING that the operation was going on, John Poet Mar 2016 #84

Open and shut case for high treason (which, not sorry Repubs, Iran-Contra very much was). HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #85

because the most powerful people in our government are NOT elected librechik Mar 2016 #89

they couldnt, everyone would have seen how far his dementia had progressed. Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #90

Reagan in PRISON or even just convicted and pardoned wasn't Hortensis Mar 2016 #91

Democrats didn't want to put the country thru it. hollowdweller Apr 2016 #95

Duane �Dewey� Clarridge, convicted of lying to Congress about Iran Contra MinM Apr 2016 #96

Maybe they didn't feel they had the evidence treestar Apr 2016 #97

Democrats always seem to fold like cheap tents. Vinca Apr 2016 #98

If Reagan had been a Democrat you better believe that the avebury Apr 2016 #99

Some Democrats love Dutch just as much as Republicans do Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #100

One big reason was Oliver North deutsey Apr 2016 #104

...& his lawyer, Brendan Sullivan Octafish Apr 2016 #107

George Herbert Walker Bush. Octafish Apr 2016 #105

because they were no b******* involved. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #108

There's no industry profit in blowjobs LadyHawkAZ Apr 2016 #111