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eridani

(51,907 posts) Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:39 AM Apr 2016

Does single payer/Medicare for All sound good now? [View all]

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/17/1515199/-Does-single-payer-Medicare-for-All-sound-good-now

How do drug companies get away with this legalized theft? In addition to lobbying Congress, they brainwash Americans into the false belief that they are receiving some benefit for an overpriced product. The astounding amount of money they invest in advertising and marketing is probative. Yet, Americans live no longer than most in the industrialized world.

Ultimately, the only solution is a single payer/Medicare for All system where drug companies are regulated more strictly than utility companies. If they find that too restrictive, research and development can be relegated solely to public universities, and manufactured by the lowest bidder.

Drug companies’ sole desire is to make a profit. Humanity plays no role. Why, then, should anyone believe they will perform any better than a university? Why not pay professors a high salary to develop products based solely on science without the worry of advertising cost, exploitative executives, and shareholders?

A single payer system would give Americans the power to demand this.

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Does single payer/Medicare for All sound good now? [View all] eridani Apr 2016 OP

I need to research how "trade" agreements affect the concept of single payer. djean111 Apr 2016 #1

The biggest stumbling block to TTIP Bad Dog Apr 2016 #3

That is a very valid reason to fear the TTIP. djean111 Apr 2016 #5

That's a huge amount of money to have to pay out. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #20

Doesn't TPP give biz the right to sue BadgerKid Apr 2016 #4

Yes. And always remember who voted for Fast track, who votes for the TPP and TTIP, and - who djean111 Apr 2016 #6

Except single payer makes drug companies more powerful Recursion Apr 2016 #2

Then you make the drug companies like public utilities. n/t A Simple Game Apr 2016 #7

Indeed. Notice we don't have single payer for public utilities. We simply regulate them. Recursion Apr 2016 #8

Smearing FUD already this morning? What a crock. Scuba Apr 2016 #10

Just because you don't think your own alleged policies through... Recursion Apr 2016 #11

Hogwash. Scuba Apr 2016 #14

Why are you against drug companies and hospitals being treated like public utilities? Recursion Apr 2016 #18

Because it's not single-payer ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #28

Medicare Part D watoos Apr 2016 #17

Guess what? Single payer will *also* be a giveaway to providers Recursion Apr 2016 #19

There will be a substantial amount of political pressure working against that n/t eridani Apr 2016 #25

If we had that political pressure to summon we wouldn't need single payer in the first place Recursion Apr 2016 #27

Global budgeting is an essential part of single payer eridani Apr 2016 #29

Nonsense Recursion Apr 2016 #30

Canada, Taiwan and South Korea all have global budgeting eridani Apr 2016 #31

Ours would be. Look at Medicare Recursion Apr 2016 #32

Medicare isn't really single payer, what with laws against drug price negotiations n/t eridani Apr 2016 #33

I still think you're confusing "single payer" with "good" Recursion Apr 2016 #34

Canada, South Korea and Taiwan have the only true single payer systems eridani Apr 2016 #39

No, Bhutan and North Korea do too Recursion Apr 2016 #40

I think that NK is more like Britain--national healty system n/t eridani Apr 2016 #41

Yeah, lets ignore the countless examples of this thing being done simply and effectively.. Kentonio Apr 2016 #35

We are exceptionally bad at stuff like this; I don't see why you don't grasp that Recursion Apr 2016 #36

I'm sick of being told what we can't do. Kentonio Apr 2016 #37

Because we're very racist and have more minorities than they do Recursion Apr 2016 #38

Who gave you the right to dictate to Americans Stevepol Apr 2016 #9

:-) redwitch Apr 2016 #12

The biggest one United Health Care is dropping out next year. classykaren Apr 2016 #13

Seriously? ReRe Apr 2016 #16

United Health is getting out of the state pools only 1939 Apr 2016 #22

Thanks n/t ReRe Apr 2016 #23

If it's a false belief that drugs provide some benefits Progressive dog Apr 2016 #15

got ACA, what else could you possibly hope for? KG Apr 2016 #21

Yes. ACA will probably be gone in my state in 2017. mmonk Apr 2016 #24

Simply, yes. suffragette Apr 2016 #26