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djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. That is a very valid reason to fear the TTIP.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:26 AM
Apr 2016

But, really, it is corporations, not "Americans" - my grandson is trying to save enough so he can go to community college and not go into debt. His job is part time, pays a pittance, and, of course, no benefits (the American Way!). He gets a $120 a month subsidy for his insurance, and pays $50 a month for insurance with big co-pays. And that insurance does not cover the psychiatrist he sees, so that is $100 cash each visit. The kicker - if his salary falls BENEATH $11,000 this year, which it likely will do, he has to pay back the entire subsidy amount.

And he just got an email from his insurer telling him he better really be in danger of dying in order to go to the ER. And to make sure he has the proper pre-authorization if he is ever so rash as to go to the ER. And to call an insurance company nurse to describe his symptoms and let the insurance company make the decision.

Actually, the co-pay for the ER is so big that he wouldn't dream of voluntarily going, anyway.

The TTIP and TPP, IMO, are dangerous to everybody's health,.

I need to research how "trade" agreements affect the concept of single payer. djean111 Apr 2016 #1
The biggest stumbling block to TTIP Bad Dog Apr 2016 #3
That is a very valid reason to fear the TTIP. djean111 Apr 2016 #5
That's a huge amount of money to have to pay out. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #20
Doesn't TPP give biz the right to sue BadgerKid Apr 2016 #4
Yes. And always remember who voted for Fast track, who votes for the TPP and TTIP, and - who djean111 Apr 2016 #6
Except single payer makes drug companies more powerful Recursion Apr 2016 #2
Then you make the drug companies like public utilities. n/t A Simple Game Apr 2016 #7
Indeed. Notice we don't have single payer for public utilities. We simply regulate them. Recursion Apr 2016 #8
Smearing FUD already this morning? What a crock. Scuba Apr 2016 #10
Just because you don't think your own alleged policies through... Recursion Apr 2016 #11
Hogwash. Scuba Apr 2016 #14
Why are you against drug companies and hospitals being treated like public utilities? Recursion Apr 2016 #18
Because it's not single-payer ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #28
Medicare Part D watoos Apr 2016 #17
Guess what? Single payer will *also* be a giveaway to providers Recursion Apr 2016 #19
There will be a substantial amount of political pressure working against that n/t eridani Apr 2016 #25
If we had that political pressure to summon we wouldn't need single payer in the first place Recursion Apr 2016 #27
Global budgeting is an essential part of single payer eridani Apr 2016 #29
Nonsense Recursion Apr 2016 #30
Canada, Taiwan and South Korea all have global budgeting eridani Apr 2016 #31
Ours would be. Look at Medicare Recursion Apr 2016 #32
Medicare isn't really single payer, what with laws against drug price negotiations n/t eridani Apr 2016 #33
I still think you're confusing "single payer" with "good" Recursion Apr 2016 #34
Canada, South Korea and Taiwan have the only true single payer systems eridani Apr 2016 #39
No, Bhutan and North Korea do too Recursion Apr 2016 #40
I think that NK is more like Britain--national healty system n/t eridani Apr 2016 #41
Yeah, lets ignore the countless examples of this thing being done simply and effectively.. Kentonio Apr 2016 #35
We are exceptionally bad at stuff like this; I don't see why you don't grasp that Recursion Apr 2016 #36
I'm sick of being told what we can't do. Kentonio Apr 2016 #37
Because we're very racist and have more minorities than they do Recursion Apr 2016 #38
Who gave you the right to dictate to Americans Stevepol Apr 2016 #9
:-) redwitch Apr 2016 #12
The biggest one United Health Care is dropping out next year. classykaren Apr 2016 #13
Seriously? ReRe Apr 2016 #16
United Health is getting out of the state pools only 1939 Apr 2016 #22
Thanks n/t ReRe Apr 2016 #23
If it's a false belief that drugs provide some benefits Progressive dog Apr 2016 #15
got ACA, what else could you possibly hope for? KG Apr 2016 #21
Yes. ACA will probably be gone in my state in 2017. mmonk Apr 2016 #24
Simply, yes. suffragette Apr 2016 #26
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