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JDPriestly

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6. These trade agreements will end the trace of democracy that remains in the world.

Mon May 2, 2016, 06:16 PM

May 2016

They are essentially corporate coups. They will end self-determination and self-government in so many areas.

Take gun control.

A lot of DUers are for that.

But gun control measures will reduce the profits of gun manufacturers some of which are primarily located outside the US.

Take the environmental regulations, limits on the use of fossil fuels or fertilizers or weed control agents. These regulations will make it difficult for people around the world to decide in their local governments, states, nations just what limits they want.

The agreements are horrible, and the courts they set up are just beyond belief awful.

And a vote for Hillary is a vote for these agreements.

Shame on all who have already voted for her.

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'Today Marks the End of TTIP': Greenpeace Leak Exposes Corporate Takeover [View all] Ferd Berfel May 2016 OP

KnR nt chknltl May 2016 #1

The US wants to FREEZE REGULATION OF TOXIC CHEMICALS Baobab May 2016 #35

And yet the Hillarians DetroitSocialist83 May 2016 #2

Now Add THIS Ferd Berfel May 2016 #5

ha.. Baobab May 2016 #36

wages will fall until Americans are competing for jobs Globally Ferd Berfel May 2016 #41

Through tariffs and taxes we make it more costly to make it abroad & bring it back than bjobotts May 2016 #68

Correct. This is what the US did from the beginning until Reagan Ferd Berfel May 2016 #73

Wonder why... Helen Borg May 2016 #15

Yep. They hate democracy. Doctor_J May 2016 #37

They don't understand this: silvershadow May 2016 #52

We need FAIR TRADE Angry Dragon May 2016 #3

Instead of legalized theft. nt valerief May 2016 #11

K & R Mbrow May 2016 #4

These trade agreements will end the trace of democracy that remains in the world. JDPriestly May 2016 #6

But, but... Hillary said it is "the Gold Standard" of trade agreements! Dustlawyer May 2016 #62

Yes, it will move a lot of gold from our pockets to theirs lagomorph777 May 2016 #81

Let's hope so n/t arcane1 May 2016 #7

K&R! We all knew it!! felix_numinous May 2016 #8

Hillary promoted this piece of fascist garbage as the gold standard Geronimoe May 2016 #9

yep 840high May 2016 #16

That's the mind blowing thing about her support. These are people KPN May 2016 #18

They're part of the DLC machine Hydra May 2016 #27

the article is about TTIP, not TPP Baobab May 2016 #44

Haha. Right. KPN May 2016 #54

TWO pieces of this garbage: TPP and TTIP. Betty Karlson May 2016 #57

And lets be aware that Trump will run to the LEFT of Clinton on this issue Ferd Berfel May 2016 #75

Right there with you. Betty Karlson May 2016 #95

Is there a link yet to these 248 pages? Amimnoch May 2016 #10

Here: Ghost Dog May 2016 #13

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast May 2016 #12

Well said. n/t fasttense May 2016 #61

Treason. Treason. Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #14

Good word for this and 840high May 2016 #17

and those who helped write it especially Ferd Berfel May 2016 #29

Huge K&R! Phlem May 2016 #19

TTIP 248 pages ReRe May 2016 #20

Let's hope it's the end of the line for all "free"trade deals and of neliberalism altogether Jack Rabbit May 2016 #21

K&R proverbialwisdom May 2016 #64

I wonder which parts of this were the promising "gold standard"? (n/t) thesquanderer May 2016 #22

that would be an excellent question Ferd Berfel May 2016 #30

The ones that jingle-jangle in the pockets of liars and thieves. Chan790 May 2016 #42

Ah, it wasn't the Gold Standard of trade agreements, it was the Goldman Sachs standard. (n/t) thesquanderer May 2016 #47

The silver standard. Chan790 May 2016 #48

Just pass it. We'lll read it and fix it later... you don't want to embarrass Hillary, right? whereisjustice May 2016 #23

HRC's gold standard remark on this monstrosity is coming back to bite her EndElectoral May 2016 #24

Hmmm. Isn't Obama still pushing this? N/T Harcourdt Fenton Mud May 2016 #25

yep. That was the reason for the Trip Ferd Berfel May 2016 #26

He has to secure his "Legacy" before he leaves the WH n/t Hydra May 2016 #28

I think "Making his Bones" would be more accurate Ferd Berfel May 2016 #31

Yes, indeed. Hydra May 2016 #33

Why do Hillary voters support this and TPP and free trade? nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #32

Hillary & her supporters think "I've got mine, so everyone else can fuck-off 99th_Monkey May 2016 #65

the cult of personality is strong in these ones LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #69

I agree. I wonder if any Hill supporters will actually answer my question. ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #70

Because they are either ignorant of the facts, Delusional, Neo-con opperatives Ferd Berfel May 2016 #74

So I assume that all commenters here have read, understood, and formed an opinion Jitter65 May 2016 #34

The worst part of the TPP agreement is Chapter 28 (Dispute Settlement) Jack Rabbit May 2016 #45

But one does not have to understand every element of chapter 28 ronnie624 May 2016 #55

The burden of paying those lost "future profits" will also fall on you and me. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #72

And the only considerations for establishing public policy, ronnie624 May 2016 #93

This right here is the biggest problem, in my mind. drm604 May 2016 #63

This literally means that loss of any future profit wins by corporations against the government... ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #71

Yes, you are right. Jack Rabbit May 2016 #77

Oh...I hope so! KoKo May 2016 #38

Obama has joined forces with republicans to stab us in the back with this. arcane1 May 2016 #79

And the TPP is exactly the same thing ie: corporate takeover of power away from people. Triana May 2016 #39

And CLinton co-wrote it and Obama is pushing it Ferd Berfel May 2016 #40

YEP. Only one who is FLAT against it & always has been is Bernie Sanders! n/t Triana May 2016 #43

the New World order lovuian May 2016 #46

Dysuptopia, here we come. Too many with open arms. bbgrunt May 2016 #49

Kickety nt chknltl May 2016 #50

Yeah Green Peace! burrowowl May 2016 #51

Well you'd think it was over, but Obama will continue to push this..... ViseGrip May 2016 #53

'Free trade' isn't free, and it is not good for the people. The only people it is good for PatrickforO May 2016 #56

It's the same ole' same ole' since the late 80s Populist_Prole May 2016 #58

.... disillusioned73 May 2016 #78

Kick rec Teamster Jeff May 2016 #59

Free Trade as designed = Corporatocracy run amok n/t JohnyCanuck May 2016 #60

K&R TY Greenpeace. We live in the most democracy shareholders will allow. nt raouldukelives May 2016 #66

It makes no sense to beat a dead horse, JEB May 2016 #67

They are megalomaniac sociopaths they can't help themselves Ferd Berfel May 2016 #76

So far not a single Hillary supporter has responded here to this disaster. rhett o rick May 2016 #80

Proving that TPP, TTIP, NAFTA, CAFTA Ferd Berfel May 2016 #82

I don't give them that much credit. IMO they don't care about the issue because they rhett o rick May 2016 #83

Just like republicans.... Ferd Berfel May 2016 #87

I am very familiar with that book. Bought a hard copy. Authoritarian followers look to rhett o rick May 2016 #88

Isn't Trump against the TPP? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #84

Ostensibly so Populist_Prole May 2016 #86

Findings, and more questions. Amimnoch May 2016 #85

What "secret documents"? The final text of the TPP has been available online since November. Link: ucrdem May 2016 #89

Read the title again - THis is TTIP Ferd Berfel May 2016 #90

LOL, so today's outrage-du-jour is over an EU trade deal. ucrdem May 2016 #91

Proving that you don't read the OP before you post your rhett o rick May 2016 #94

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