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13. K&R

Tue May 3, 2016, 07:04 PM

May 2016

OK... so does anyone not get what this is saying? DU seems to be frequented of late by people who can't understand plain English. I thought it was pretty clear.

How is it that a political candidate in this country can flip-flop on such an important issue as single-payer healthcare within a 25-year period? Can someone who understands that explain how that works? Is it kind of like the drug use issue... "yeah I did that 25 yrs ago when I was a kid, but I don't do that anymore. Ha-ha." Of course it isn't. That's not like the issue of Universal Health Care.

"Democratic Consultants" my ass. They are Ins. Co lobbyists who will fight to the death to be absolutely sure that the health insurance monopoly will continue to govern whether we live or effing die, or hang on by the skin of our effing teeth, and make absolutely sure they maintain a grip on that big wad of MONEY. Everyone got that?

Thanks, dixiegrrrrl. It's all pretty plain to me.

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+ 1 bazillion! Enthusiast May 2016 #58

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GATS Baobab May 2016 #46

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Huge +1! Enthusiast May 2016 #61

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K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast May 2016 #62

Thanks, DixieG. Kicked. nt MaeScott May 2016 #63

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