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jwirr

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18. In my state the caucuses are open and any one who wants

Wed May 4, 2016, 06:26 PM

May 2016

to support the candidate is welcome to vote. But my state is also one of the state parties that made the 32 state democratic party deals with Hillary long before any vote was passed. As a Bernie delegate I am hoping to be able to let them know just exactly how they sold my vote to one candidate and the as an elected official I intend to resign and register Independent.

Why you ask? They made a deal behind our back that made our vote irrelevant and they need to see that we will not take it anymore.

Jimmy Carter among others has told us that we are now an oligarchy. He is right. When you state party starts collecting money for one of two candidates before any election then your vote really does not count and it does not help any that we have a bunch of super-delegates who can do the same thing.

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One thing this election will do: Grow more Independents. [View all] cali May 2016 OP

I posted something similar a week ago Electric Monk May 2016 #1

Dunno. Igel May 2016 #2

I went NPA in 2007. Fuddnik May 2016 #3

Yup nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #4

My anecdotal, personal experience is that independents... Wounded Bear May 2016 #5

My anecdotal, personal experience is that independents enlightenment May 2016 #14

Your anecdotal evidence TM99 May 2016 #29

I am waiting for another viable liberal party to emerge. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #6

I'm with you on that Victor_c3 May 2016 #42

Another viable liberal party? Mnpaul May 2016 #62

We've had third parties and we've had independent candidates before Blue_Tires May 2016 #7

The level of dissatisfaction with the two partes cali May 2016 #8

so bernie chooses the democrats and now democrats are bad lol nt msongs May 2016 #9

The party, while not perfect, seems to be doing well Blue_Tires May 2016 #10

Something is different....way different. democrank May 2016 #11

People realize the Dem Party has been bought by corporations and big money. TryLogic May 2016 #15

So true. And why I will go independent after elections. ciaobaby May 2016 #26

People do realize you're trolling Democat May 2016 #37

I agree, except it's not outside the control of the Establishment lagomorph777 May 2016 #41

Welcome back.... Raster May 2016 #12

And yet the TWO parties will insist on nominating their people and have the independents choose thereismore May 2016 #13

Both parties have been bought by corporations and big money. TryLogic May 2016 #16

And Bernie is now a Democrat...go figure! Nt pkdu May 2016 #52

Unless and until instant runoff voting is enacted, I just don't see a path for independents IDemo May 2016 #17

In my state the caucuses are open and any one who wants jwirr May 2016 #18

what are you talking about with deals? hfojvt May 2016 #21

I would have more respect for induhpendents hfojvt May 2016 #19

Are people so one dimensional that they can be characterized with one labeI? Or just a sports game? lostnfound May 2016 #30

your explanation is incomprehensible hfojvt May 2016 #31

In a lot of states, primaries ARE open to independents so your primary arguments don't hold water lostnfound May 2016 #32

Of course, it's not that simple, is it? Orrex May 2016 #34

That still also says nothing hfojvt May 2016 #38

However, that says nothing... Orrex May 2016 #39

Sadly, this is where all the teabaggers and gun nuts are. beastie boy May 2016 #20

That's too bad. Imagine what kind of party we could have if everyone got involved and took over TeamPooka May 2016 #22

I and my Family donnasgirl May 2016 #23

Donald is the independent on the right, Bernie was the independent on the left LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #24

An Independent Is A Citizen That No Longer Believes In The Rigged Establishment Two Party System cantbeserious May 2016 #25

This is not a black and white, simple situation - independent can be used such different ways NRaleighLiberal May 2016 #27

Independents are also people Eko May 2016 #28

Thankfully this is a site for Democrats. Kingofalldems May 2016 #33

Now that i and my Family donnasgirl May 2016 #35

That's up to you. Kingofalldems May 2016 #36

We have been Democrats all of our lives donnasgirl May 2016 #40

So your theory is that if enough peiople registered as an independant the two parties would TeamPooka May 2016 #44

The dumbest fucking thing i have ever donnasgirl May 2016 #45

and by opting out they are letting others control their lives. nt TeamPooka May 2016 #46

How so donnasgirl May 2016 #47

in the way I outlined in the previous posts. Did you not understand it? TeamPooka May 2016 #48

By going Independent you made the claim donnasgirl May 2016 #49

you're letting the people you let run the pparties make the choices instead of TeamPooka May 2016 #50

We are going to have to agree to disagree donnasgirl May 2016 #55

Some people can only see and think blue team, red team. I think people are going to leave that haikugal May 2016 #56

The other night i wrote donnasgirl May 2016 #57

Enough is enough! haikugal May 2016 #58

Great, go family! That's not the point. This is a site for Democrats... LannyDeVaney May 2016 #60

Take your message to Hillary Clinton’s campaign! CobaltBlue May 2016 #53

Not if they want to vote in closed primaries. There are a lot of new Bernie Dems out there. pnwmom May 2016 #43

I'm going NPA after our local primary. HooptieWagon May 2016 #51

The future elections will show this to be true. panader0 May 2016 #54

I have posted this a couple of times but here it is again because I just can't get over it Samantha May 2016 #59

I hope so. Politics in the US needs massive paradigm shifting AgadorSparticus May 2016 #61

I doubt it. People have learned that if they want a vote in a closed primary, they have to commit pnwmom May 2016 #63