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hfojvt

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38. That still also says nothing

Thu May 5, 2016, 01:47 PM

May 2016

about the value of being an independent in an open primary state.

Okay, so my "you cannot vote in primaries" does not work for a reason NOT to - in some states (and for some parties), but still what is the reason FOR doing it, even in an open primary state?

As for solid Democrats, well, I have voted for Republicans as a registered Democrat. In the last campaign I even had a yard sign for the Republican Senator (I believe I can say that on DU since there was NOT a Democrat running against him, even though the Democratic Party in Kansas thought the independent was the great rich hope. I thought he was the greater of two evils.)

Plus, I hoped to set an example for anybody who might pay attention. That is, if I expect at least some Republican voters to vote for some Democratic candidates then I myself should not be all about party lines. If I can support Roberts and Davis (the Democratic candidate for Governor) then they can too.

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One thing this election will do: Grow more Independents. [View all] cali May 2016 OP

I posted something similar a week ago Electric Monk May 2016 #1

Dunno. Igel May 2016 #2

I went NPA in 2007. Fuddnik May 2016 #3

Yup nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #4

My anecdotal, personal experience is that independents... Wounded Bear May 2016 #5

My anecdotal, personal experience is that independents enlightenment May 2016 #14

Your anecdotal evidence TM99 May 2016 #29

I am waiting for another viable liberal party to emerge. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #6

I'm with you on that Victor_c3 May 2016 #42

Another viable liberal party? Mnpaul May 2016 #62

We've had third parties and we've had independent candidates before Blue_Tires May 2016 #7

The level of dissatisfaction with the two partes cali May 2016 #8

so bernie chooses the democrats and now democrats are bad lol nt msongs May 2016 #9

The party, while not perfect, seems to be doing well Blue_Tires May 2016 #10

Something is different....way different. democrank May 2016 #11

People realize the Dem Party has been bought by corporations and big money. TryLogic May 2016 #15

So true. And why I will go independent after elections. ciaobaby May 2016 #26

People do realize you're trolling Democat May 2016 #37

I agree, except it's not outside the control of the Establishment lagomorph777 May 2016 #41

Welcome back.... Raster May 2016 #12

And yet the TWO parties will insist on nominating their people and have the independents choose thereismore May 2016 #13

Both parties have been bought by corporations and big money. TryLogic May 2016 #16

And Bernie is now a Democrat...go figure! Nt pkdu May 2016 #52

Unless and until instant runoff voting is enacted, I just don't see a path for independents IDemo May 2016 #17

In my state the caucuses are open and any one who wants jwirr May 2016 #18

what are you talking about with deals? hfojvt May 2016 #21

I would have more respect for induhpendents hfojvt May 2016 #19

Are people so one dimensional that they can be characterized with one labeI? Or just a sports game? lostnfound May 2016 #30

your explanation is incomprehensible hfojvt May 2016 #31

In a lot of states, primaries ARE open to independents so your primary arguments don't hold water lostnfound May 2016 #32

Of course, it's not that simple, is it? Orrex May 2016 #34

That still also says nothing hfojvt May 2016 #38

However, that says nothing... Orrex May 2016 #39

Sadly, this is where all the teabaggers and gun nuts are. beastie boy May 2016 #20

That's too bad. Imagine what kind of party we could have if everyone got involved and took over TeamPooka May 2016 #22

I and my Family donnasgirl May 2016 #23

Donald is the independent on the right, Bernie was the independent on the left LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #24

An Independent Is A Citizen That No Longer Believes In The Rigged Establishment Two Party System cantbeserious May 2016 #25

This is not a black and white, simple situation - independent can be used such different ways NRaleighLiberal May 2016 #27

Independents are also people Eko May 2016 #28

Thankfully this is a site for Democrats. Kingofalldems May 2016 #33

Now that i and my Family donnasgirl May 2016 #35

That's up to you. Kingofalldems May 2016 #36

We have been Democrats all of our lives donnasgirl May 2016 #40

So your theory is that if enough peiople registered as an independant the two parties would TeamPooka May 2016 #44

The dumbest fucking thing i have ever donnasgirl May 2016 #45

and by opting out they are letting others control their lives. nt TeamPooka May 2016 #46

How so donnasgirl May 2016 #47

in the way I outlined in the previous posts. Did you not understand it? TeamPooka May 2016 #48

By going Independent you made the claim donnasgirl May 2016 #49

you're letting the people you let run the pparties make the choices instead of TeamPooka May 2016 #50

We are going to have to agree to disagree donnasgirl May 2016 #55

Some people can only see and think blue team, red team. I think people are going to leave that haikugal May 2016 #56

The other night i wrote donnasgirl May 2016 #57

Enough is enough! haikugal May 2016 #58

Great, go family! That's not the point. This is a site for Democrats... LannyDeVaney May 2016 #60

Take your message to Hillary Clinton’s campaign! CobaltBlue May 2016 #53

Not if they want to vote in closed primaries. There are a lot of new Bernie Dems out there. pnwmom May 2016 #43

I'm going NPA after our local primary. HooptieWagon May 2016 #51

The future elections will show this to be true. panader0 May 2016 #54

I have posted this a couple of times but here it is again because I just can't get over it Samantha May 2016 #59

I hope so. Politics in the US needs massive paradigm shifting AgadorSparticus May 2016 #61

I doubt it. People have learned that if they want a vote in a closed primary, they have to commit pnwmom May 2016 #63