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Sen. Walter Sobchak

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51. I wouldn't pay for first class/business class on any plane where you have to do that

Sat May 7, 2016, 11:52 AM

May 2016

Domestic First/Business class is the worst value out there.

Most of my net worth is tied up in various airline frequent flyer programs and I get free upgrades, but I wouldn't pay double, triple or more for the privilege.

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Economy passengers may rage after being marched through first class [View all] sofa king May 2016 OP

Maybe if they stopped making economy so uncomfortable edhopper May 2016 #1

but we need reminders LiberalEsto May 2016 #2

And that is why these Republican-controlled corporations... scscholar May 2016 #105

The fact is people buy based on price Travis_0004 May 2016 #3

Yep. I fly Jetblue a lot and they offer "even more legroom" seats for about $40 extra Nye Bevan May 2016 #5

I know that's a sucker bet. UtahJosh May 2016 #9

Whatever. What about when the NEW planes Hortensis May 2016 #66

Because you're 6'2 with extraordinarily long thighs (I literally do not fit in a normal economy MillennialDem May 2016 #80

To get from my town's airport to a regional hub I have to take a 20-passenger plane on the first hop Hekate May 2016 #108

And yet edhopper May 2016 #7

Exactly! nt UtahJosh May 2016 #10

I just returned a couple of weeks ago from flying around Europe FLPanhandle May 2016 #12

I am mostly aquainted edhopper May 2016 #21

They are about the same. Some are worse. Major Nikon May 2016 #33

I say do what a lot of European countries do gopiscrap May 2016 #29

I don't know of any major European carrier that is nationalized Major Nikon May 2016 #68

When I was flying around Australia Punx May 2016 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #43

Let me introduce you to Lufthansa's A320s Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2016 #53

Are those edhopper May 2016 #56

The worst I have personally experienced anywhere Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2016 #62

That is bad edhopper May 2016 #63

I take it you've never flown Ryanair philosslayer May 2016 #82

Ryanair. Barf. mainer May 2016 #93

I did philosslayer May 2016 #95

OR... UtahJosh May 2016 #8

".....and make slightly less profit." If they made any less they would be out of business. EX500rider May 2016 #15

I'd love to learn more about the "despite incredible growth" part. UtahJosh May 2016 #17

"I'd love to learn more about the "despite incredible growth" part." Easy: EX500rider May 2016 #18

Thanks. UtahJosh May 2016 #28

The growth doesn't hurt them. EX500rider May 2016 #38

I think it is fuel costs that eat their profit margin. nt tblue37 May 2016 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #44

In the Old Testament: 7 years fat, 7 years lean--stock up during the fat years tblue37 May 2016 #47

You're free to start an airline of your own philosslayer May 2016 #83

make slightly less profit. AlbertCat May 2016 #50

You don't think Amtrak is subsidized???? philosslayer May 2016 #85

No airline or railroad in the world Lydia Leftcoast May 2016 #92

can exist without some form of subsidies. AlbertCat May 2016 #97

You don't think Amtrak is subsidized???? AlbertCat May 2016 #96

If you call well over a billion dollars a year a nickel philosslayer May 2016 #98

They pay for the airports, air traffic control, etc. jberryhill May 2016 #109

I do not buy on price alone Lydia Leftcoast May 2016 #88

Having once homegirl May 2016 #54

It sure is getting unbearable. On a Delta Connections flight between Seattle and Denver last Nov, JimDandy May 2016 #70

A letter to Delta edhopper May 2016 #72

Delta will ignore your letter. Lionel Mandrake May 2016 #106

Airplane travel should be less comfortable: Your Biggest Carbon Sin May Be Air Travel Human101948 May 2016 #76

So you are saying edhopper May 2016 #77

No, you shouldn't drive... Human101948 May 2016 #78

Simply being alive is going to affect the climate Travis_0004 May 2016 #79

I guess i have to accept that then. edhopper May 2016 #99

There is that solar powered airplane.... Human101948 May 2016 #100

Yes edhopper May 2016 #103

Why are you posting on the internet? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #101

I'm using solar panels for my power.... Human101948 May 2016 #102

And I'm on a 100% renewable plan. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #104

People who get pissed about First Class should know this titaniumsalute May 2016 #4

As a 2 million miler on Delta Airlines, I agree FLPanhandle May 2016 #11

Good point. nt UtahJosh May 2016 #13

I fly first because I'm disabled REP May 2016 #16

my best friend also travels much for work and has speacial status due to the miles dembotoz May 2016 #36

If you got rid of First Class, economy seats would get more expensive mainer May 2016 #6

Got any proof of that? UtahJosh May 2016 #14

NYT article mainer May 2016 #23

Southwest has no first class and they tend to be the cheapest Major Nikon May 2016 #35

But even they are moving toward a class system mainer May 2016 #39

Most other airlines offer early boarding for more $$$ as well Major Nikon May 2016 #42

Allegiant Air has a one-class level of service mainer May 2016 #49

Some people view transportation as nothing more than getting from point A to B Major Nikon May 2016 #52

Long hauls, different story. mainer May 2016 #55

Not for me Major Nikon May 2016 #58

I don't consider sleep an amenity mainer May 2016 #59

I sleep just fine in coach Major Nikon May 2016 #60

Could've done it as a kid mainer May 2016 #61

I sleep fine in coach on long international flights. a la izquierda May 2016 #81

Before I retired, I always had an agreement with the people I worked for. 1939 May 2016 #65

Absolutely! titaniumsalute May 2016 #75

If First/Business classes weren't profitable, airlines would dump them mainer May 2016 #25

I fly a lot domestically. First/Business is always full. mainer May 2016 #27

And probably most of them are upgrades Lydia Leftcoast May 2016 #91

I've flown first class and economy. cwydro May 2016 #19

+1000 FLPanhandle May 2016 #20

When I see someone in expensive designer clothes, I don't feel rage mainer May 2016 #22

Lol. True dat. cwydro May 2016 #24

I love resale shops in nice areas! mainer May 2016 #26

Yes, when I really want to splurge lol, I'll go the Women's League shop. cwydro May 2016 #30

US consumers rage about foreign-made clothing mainer May 2016 #31

riff-raff!!! oldandhappy May 2016 #34

You confuse inequality Igel May 2016 #37

That's why they shouldn't let monkeys fly... GreatGazoo May 2016 #41

Are the "first class people"* already boarded? Do they look at these people as they walk jtuck004 May 2016 #45

I don't travel a lot, but I do fly first class. WillowTree May 2016 #107

I HATE flying. I absolutely cannot get comfortable in most coach class seats. mnhtnbb May 2016 #46

The seats are horribly uncomfortable and the LibDemAlways May 2016 #48

30 years ago every seat was first class Travis_0004 May 2016 #73

The real downgrading actually occurred in the 1990s Lydia Leftcoast May 2016 #89

I wouldn't pay for first class/business class on any plane where you have to do that Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2016 #51

Something I have noticed is edhopper May 2016 #57

First class seats cost like 5 times economy. If they want to pay it, more power to them. pampango May 2016 #64

Actually, that is not always the case. mnhtnbb May 2016 #67

First class exists more for the sake of loyalty programs Major Nikon May 2016 #69

Whoever wrote this headline should be permanently removed from media. Shandris May 2016 #71

I completely agree. sofa king May 2016 #74

after putting up with security and the waits, folks are just happy to get on the damn plane dembotoz May 2016 #84

More like a colonoscopy ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #86

shitty analogy but accurate dembotoz May 2016 #94

First class FlaGranny May 2016 #87

Great experience flying yesterday PasadenaTrudy May 2016 #90