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basselope

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41. Its very likely he wins.. with a couple of caveats.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:39 PM
May 2016

Caveat #1) IF a 3rd party candidate comes along to split the anti-establishment vote.
Caveat #2) The Senate continues to sit on its hands with the SC seat (which I don' think they will do), b/c that would be a strong wedge issue for Clinton.

Barring one of those 2 things. Trump is more likely to win than not for a few reason.

The GOP has spent the last 8 years improving their voter suppression strategy in key swing states. It takes overwhelming and dedicated voter turnout to overcome that. I don't see that turnout happening with an establishment candidate.

Trump has the ultimate play on Clinton. He can show she is a bought and paid for politician, b/c he has the receipts to prove it. That will come out in the debates and be a focus of his campaign.

Finally.. the October surprise will be the release of video of Clinton's speeches to Wall Street, which will further depress democratic base turnout.

Clinton is already making the mistake of running to the middle turning this election into establishment vs anti-establishment and its a battle the establishment can't win.

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Someone please reassure me [View all] jhrobbins May 2016 OP
'Hillary Clinton Is Statistically The Most Favored Presidential Candidate In Modern History' onehandle May 2016 #1
Can't. Sorry. TDale313 May 2016 #2
Sorry, but Trump wins this pretty easily. basselope May 2016 #3
Very sobering post... deathrind May 2016 #5
Today he is saying a lot about Hillary yeoman6987 May 2016 #56
She doesn't have to refute anything. Kingofalldems May 2016 #63
Would you like to make a friendly wager on that? snooper2 May 2016 #7
50K basselope May 2016 #18
What? Is this like the Super Bowl to you? mac56 May 2016 #74
maybe... but Trump is as close to unelectable to the presidency as anyone I've ever seen Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #13
They said the same thing about Reagan in 1980. basselope May 2016 #19
Reagan was more genial, and those were different times Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #20
I think very few people understand his campaign. basselope May 2016 #23
if he destroys the GOP, great Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #30
Its very likely he wins.. with a couple of caveats. basselope May 2016 #41
I disagree. cwydro May 2016 #22
Its much too blanket a statement. basselope May 2016 #24
it's also true-- he will lose those huge demographics by large margins Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #31
Not exactly true... basselope May 2016 #42
we will see... I'm not saying it's a sure thing he will lose Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #48
The problem is I don't see how Clinton wins... I don't see the path. basselope May 2016 #55
there is a path and it isn't that complicated Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #94
All the "paths" involve them counting on states they just aren't going to win. basselope May 2016 #95
and you base that Hillary won't win those states on what? Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #96
The lay of the land... basselope May 2016 #97
I hate to burst your Trump bubble but he can't win leftofcool May 2016 #27
yep... though I think you meant he can't win without women Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #32
History says you're wrong. basselope May 2016 #44
It's a reassuring fantasy for Hillary haters realmirage May 2016 #33
Sadly, it is based in reality, facts and history. basselope May 2016 #45
they won't vote for her, and desperately WANT her to lose Skittles May 2016 #73
+1 La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #99
Sorry, but IMO, this is what mining documents to reinforce Hortensis May 2016 #34
You couldn't be any more wrong. brush May 2016 #37
Hillary will win in a landslide drray23 May 2016 #58
His numbers in those communities aren't nearly as bad as people claim. basselope May 2016 #59
Trump has just renounced his self-funding. So how is it that he won't be corrupted pnwmom May 2016 #64
Because you don't understand Trump. basselope May 2016 #67
He can't and he won't. A few photos with Hillary and donations he made to BOTH parties pnwmom May 2016 #68
That's "Old way" thinking. basselope May 2016 #69
That way of thinking works with a portion of Rethug voters. It won't work with the much pnwmom May 2016 #70
Exactly the kind of thinking that got him the republican nomination. basselope May 2016 #71
70% of women hate him. They are immune. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #72
Those numbers will change before the general. basselope May 2016 #78
Of course. Even more women will loath him. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #83
Sorry, but no. basselope May 2016 #85
They know how bad his numbers are with women. That's one reason they're afraid. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #87
They're not afraid.. they are in denial. basselope May 2016 #90
and we can say hello DonCoquixote May 2016 #86
You really think he would go to Lyin'Ted? basselope May 2016 #89
no low is too low DonCoquixote May 2016 #92
WE have many months to go Tsiyu May 2016 #4
I think the "sexual purity voters" are actually more interested in "racial purity" lagomorph777 May 2016 #9
You are probably right Tsiyu May 2016 #15
Tsiyu, how COULD election fraud divert enough Hortensis May 2016 #46
A wise and thoughtful post Tsiyu May 2016 #52
Try this Maeve May 2016 #6
Cook's kind of forgetting the enormous vulnerabilities Hortensis May 2016 #47
The same racist assholes who support Trump were against Obama too but we TeamPooka May 2016 #8
Nope. Stay antsy and GOTV JHB May 2016 #10
George W. Bush spent eight years in the White House. surrealAmerican May 2016 #11
I support Bernie so my 'official' position is that Donald will destroy Hillary. The Donald is pampango May 2016 #12
"who will drive him into the ground then plant a tree on top of him." pnwmom May 2016 #66
Sorry, anything can happen. Clinton might even win. So take heart in that. Katashi_itto May 2016 #14
Clinton Most Admired Woman for Record 20th Time SecularMotion May 2016 #16
Yep. nt onehandle May 2016 #17
Good addition to the conversation. Hortensis May 2016 #49
and yet she has the highest untrustworthy numbers.. grasswire May 2016 #54
I have seen this tossed out countless times in various threads mac56 May 2016 #75
ace in the whole mnmoderatedem May 2016 #21
She's got this! DawgHouse May 2016 #25
Bernie is the only one that has this. Even Trump said he rather go up agains Hillary bkkyosemite May 2016 #26
Time to face the music. Bernie's out of it. brush May 2016 #38
Trump will win. No question about it. DesMoinesDem May 2016 #28
Either Hillary or Bernie could beat trump with no issue gollygee May 2016 #29
All the disenfranchised Independent voters xloadiex May 2016 #35
Independents went For Romney... jamese777 May 2016 #53
Based on voter turnout so far egalitegirl May 2016 #36
Check your figures again. Hillary has more votes than Sanders or Trump brush May 2016 #40
Clinton leads Trump in popular votes jamese777 May 2016 #43
Latest CNN/ORC Poll jamese777 May 2016 #39
I don't believe that is representative of how Hortensis May 2016 #50
NO CAN DO grasswire May 2016 #51
Looks fine according to RCP. Butterbean May 2016 #57
Arnold won California...twice!!! U4ikLefty May 2016 #60
It will boil down to who can cheat best Katashi_itto May 2016 #61
A very confusing race to try to predict. Dems to Win May 2016 #62
Here's ALL the reassurance you need.... Timmy5835 May 2016 #65
Hillary will beat Trump handily. Chan790 May 2016 #76
clinton is already recruiting republicans oldandhappy May 2016 #77
Good. She should get everyone who wants a sane President to vote for her. pnwmom May 2016 #88
Sorry, can't. elleng May 2016 #79
I wish I could, but polling indicates it might be tough. This is a change election silvershadow May 2016 #80
It is difficult to speak in certainties. BlindTiresias May 2016 #81
Well... Feathery Scout May 2016 #82
Never ever underestimate Trump Kilgore May 2016 #84
I've Heard So Many Republican Voters Say They Will Not Vote For Trump! Corey_Baker08 May 2016 #91
It's simple math and demographics ButterflyBlood May 2016 #93
she will but even if she doesn't, Trump will be better for most people than a Cruz presidency would La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #98
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