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3. Bill Clinton wasn't the worst. He was merely the first to be exposed publicly for it.

Sat May 7, 2016, 11:39 PM

May 2016

The TV show Mad Men could have been set in almost any industry including politics. Sexual harassment was common and almost expected.

Anita Hill tried to come forward and we all saw what happened -- Clarence Thomas was supported by the other men and he got confirmed.

But then, several years later, Monica befriended an older woman with a tape recorder and the rest is history.

I'm not excusing Bill's behavior. I'm saying it wasn't particularly unusual or extreme for the era. What was unusual was that it wasn't swept under the carpet.

For the record, Monica said their relations were consensual. Two of the women said he harassed them. And a third denied in a sworn affadavit that he assaulted her, but years later came forward with a new story.

Hillary stayed with her husband and believed in his innocence till proven wrong. It was a humiliating experience for her but she wasn't the person who did wrong to these women -- that was Bill.

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fuck this guy: Trump Slams Hillary Clinton as 'Nasty, Mean Enabler' of Husband's Affairs [View all] spanone May 2016 OP

Considering who it is, mooseprime May 2016 #1

Is his Alzheimer's undiagnosed? Or are we just being kept in the dark? L. Coyote May 2016 #79

The Trump diagnosis is Narcissistic Personalty Disorder Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #111

Is there not some truth to this? Hillary certainly never took those women's side. BillZBubb May 2016 #2

No humiliated, betrayed wife is required to publicly take the side of her husband's accusers. pnwmom May 2016 #4

I remember the video of Bill, Hillary and Chelsea walking to the helicopter Gman May 2016 #15

hillary said the only person who wanted to be DesertFlower May 2016 #61

I didn't know that... moriah May 2016 #23

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She didn't smear anyone. She just said she believed her husband --- pnwmom May 2016 #31

Best post! Thank you pnwmom! I am old enough (and enough of a news/political junkie) to remember skylucy May 2016 #106

That's the difference, skylucy. Some of us are old enough to remember that whole pnwmom May 2016 #107

Inspector Cornpone W. Javert . . . hatrack May 2016 #109

Unless the husband's name is malaise May 2016 #38

Who is asking her to do anything? nt pnwmom May 2016 #48

Yep awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #97

lol. La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #7

+1 pnwmom May 2016 #16

That's not the issue and you know it or you've got your head buried in sand. BillZBubb May 2016 #68

They didn't deserve to be labeled trailer trash Gman May 2016 #91

Had sex with him? Last I checked, it took two! ViseGrip May 2016 #77

Yes, it did. Bill and Monica are both responsible for the sex La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #82

Sexual harassment is not about sex but about power egalitegirl May 2016 #85

assuming there was sexual harassment, it was still on Bill not on her. La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #101

Nothing left to assume egalitegirl May 2016 #105

define Enabler. Trump said, 'groupies' & his womanizing are Her fault. Sunlei May 2016 #30

It's always the woman's fault malaise May 2016 #40

yup. Trump probably told his first two wives it was "their fault" he divorced them & found a, Sunlei May 2016 #72

We'll put you down as one who thinks it's appropriate to blame the wife if the husband strays, then. Squinch May 2016 #37

I'm not blaming Hillary for Bill's actions. I blame her in part for the attacks on the women. BillZBubb May 2016 #69

Hillary was not nice to the women her husband was sleeping with? Well, horrors! Squinch May 2016 #71

What an ignorant or disingenuous comment. "not nice" indeed. BillZBubb May 2016 #80

You'd be all kisses & love to your wifes 'lovers', even if he saved her panties? & told his friends Sunlei May 2016 #73

Another totally disingenous or ignorant comment. BillZBubb May 2016 #83

He was a womanizer, a 'character' problem a lot of men have. Sunlei May 2016 #88

You made no comment about Juanita Broadderick. I wonder why? BillZBubb May 2016 #90

I don't even know who she is, what year or any details. Sunlei May 2016 #93

Well, that explains a lot. I'm not surprised, most Clinton supporters don't want to know. BillZBubb May 2016 #95

I 'like' them both, wish Sanders & Clinton would team up. Sunlei May 2016 #102

Wait, what? a la izquierda May 2016 #66

Not support the women, but not denigrate them either. BillZBubb May 2016 #67

I won't 'imply' like you *assumed* Mrs. Clinton did. They were trashy, loose woman. Sunlei May 2016 #86

You are really one sick person. You are purposefully ignorant and without morals. BillZBubb May 2016 #96

You're the one who stated "she knew" and added action* to whatever she said about the loose woman. Sunlei May 2016 #104

Please provide citations of Hillary Clinton referring to the women in question as you describe hatrack May 2016 #110

So if some guy makes me a cuckold I am supposed to take his side? DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #70

Very true. n/t Peregrine Took May 2016 #89

Bill Clinton wasn't the worst. He was merely the first to be exposed publicly for it. pnwmom May 2016 #3

I think the bigger issue is how feminism turned their back on those women davidn3600 May 2016 #12

.that^ 840high May 2016 #13

Gennifer Flowers claimed she had a 12 year consensual relationship with him. pnwmom May 2016 #14

I was as angry as anyone about Lewinsky, but thanks for setting some facts straight Boomerproud May 2016 #17

It used to be that we believed women who said they'd been sexually harassed or assaulted riderinthestorm May 2016 #62

So now feminists are responsible for Bill's sex life. You are always so funny! Squinch May 2016 #39

He also insinuated that Hillary has committed DV against Bill. maryellen99 May 2016 #5

Trump is trying out a new lure. He's a marketeer making his way playing to people's human nature HereSince1628 May 2016 #57

This won't help him with most women radical noodle May 2016 #6

+1. i dont blame monica lewinsky but lets not pretend that hillary has no reason to be angry w. her La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #8

The assertions in this thread that Hillary and the feminists should have marched to support Squinch May 2016 #42

Trump is the personification of nasty commenters on the net. chowder66 May 2016 #9

I know, I know, she's been vetted... Kip Humphrey May 2016 #10

This will only help Hillary. These lines of attacks are so incredibly asinine! ecstatic May 2016 #11

She just said she believed her husband, until he admitted having oral sex with Lewinsky. pnwmom May 2016 #18

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Were you in the dark about the fact that Bill has sexual accusations against him? Squinch May 2016 #44

Awww, too bad. Trouble in paradise. Arugula Latte May 2016 #19

And he's a nasty, mean enabler of white supremacists. Initech May 2016 #20

Ding, ding, ding! BlueMTexpat May 2016 #22

Its going to get A LOT worse. basselope May 2016 #21

This election will be like no other, so "always" doesn't apply. pnwmom May 2016 #24

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That IS something to go by. Women dislike Trump, even in his own party. pnwmom May 2016 #29

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Polls say that Trump is hated by women and Clinton is a bit less hated by men. w4rma May 2016 #34

Trump has consistently gotten 30% (and higher) of the female Republican vote riderinthestorm May 2016 #64

This is not borne out by the polls. It simply isn't true. Women do prefer Hillary, and women Squinch May 2016 #45

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What makes you assume that most women like Hillary? nt UtahJosh May 2016 #46

Polls. Squinch May 2016 #49

They don't have to "like" her to think she's smart, sane, and liberal, and the best option we have. pnwmom May 2016 #92

No, it won't. basselope May 2016 #87

says the man on his 3rd wife for a reason. nt TeamPooka May 2016 #25

You win everything with this comment! n/t phylny May 2016 #100

Hard to tell a Trump quote from a DU post these days Democat May 2016 #33

The guy who replaced his trophy wife with a younger model 2x? Freddie May 2016 #35

He doesn't understand women JustAnotherGen May 2016 #36

Unfortunately there are those here who will think "the enemy of my enemy is ..." n/t pampango May 2016 #41

This is the kind of shit talk that's going to backfire sufrommich May 2016 #43

Better get used to it. Vinca May 2016 #50

Which would be even worse for Trump leftofcool May 2016 #51

Trump is having the time of his life.... yourpaljoey May 2016 #52

I'm still convinced this started out as a joke for him and now he can't figure out a way Vinca May 2016 #54

You may be right about starting out as a joke yourpaljoey May 2016 #60

So are you saying that people shouldn't vote for Hillary because Trump is going to say all american girl May 2016 #55

Did I say that? I don't think so. Vinca May 2016 #56

Yeah, but he would do that to Bernie also. This man is just a jackass...no one is safe from his all american girl May 2016 #59

I've seen similar comments right here on DU. cwydro May 2016 #53

Including right in this thread. Metric System May 2016 #81

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When was the last time awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #99

This is the most insane thing Donald Trump has ever said. UCmeNdc May 2016 #63

bring it on trump. this line of attack is going to backfire. and look in the mirror you disgusting MariaThinks May 2016 #65

Hillary is the adult who lives the 'for better or for worse' commitment better than Trump ever will. ancianita May 2016 #74

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Given Trump's marital "enabling" immigration policy, we oughta build a wall around his dick. ancianita May 2016 #76

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Locking tammywammy May 2016 #112