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cali

(114,904 posts) Sun May 8, 2016, 06:20 AM May 2016

Do I sound like a snob? The rise of Trump correlates directly with the abysmal degradation [View all]

of American culture. Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, Sarah Palin, social media and the emperor of mindless crud, TV, have also been prime movers. It's not really Bill's fault: How could he have known that appearing on Arsenio Hall with his saxophone could have triggered such a sea change in Presidential politics? Was it MTV that introduced the now de rigeur question, "Boxers or briefs"? At least we haven't sunk to bikini or thong? Yet.

Donald is the garbage culture candidate. And he fits neatly with another piece of the American psyche: That broad streak of casual brutality that courses through our history.

We don't deserve Trump, but he's as American as a microwaved hot pocket.

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Do I sound like a snob? The rise of Trump correlates directly with the abysmal degradation [View all] cali May 2016 OP

To the question, "Boxers or briefs"? the answer is, of course, HubertHeaver May 2016 #1

..... cali May 2016 #2

Chuckles cantbeserious May 2016 #6

Actually the correct answer would have been... JackRiddler May 2016 #47

ha. ha. LiberalElite May 2016 #65

Exactly Scarsdale May 2016 #3

You sound snobby. Helen Borg May 2016 #4

I have happily been unplugged from pop culture for decades dorkzilla May 2016 #5

This Citizen Has Been TV Free For 16 Years Now - The Solitude Is A Haven From The Insanity cantbeserious May 2016 #7

TV Free For 16 Years Now CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #56

Everything on TV news is calculated to mislead and misinform us, in ways that benefit the oligarchy. Maedhros May 2016 #83

Did you ever listen CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #84

+1. n/t ronnie624 May 2016 #88

Discod the traditional cable last week Kittycat May 2016 #11

I don't know how I'd navigate through this muck with children dorkzilla May 2016 #63

And dare I add Prince to the list? nt Jitter65 May 2016 #8

No. JackRiddler May 2016 #48

And why would you do that? GoneOffShore May 2016 #50

On that I would strongly disagree. mountain grammy May 2016 #52

The degradation is firmly in the Republican camp. randome May 2016 #9

Nonsesnse, all of DeeCee is responsible. Cosmic Kitten May 2016 #15

Maybe in your rush to somehow blame Democrats, you overlooked the subject of the OP. randome May 2016 #22

How have they prevented the corsening of culture? Cosmic Kitten May 2016 #28

For Christ's sake, even the GOP despises Trump! randome May 2016 #33

So you are OK with degrading people if republicans do it, got it Cosmic Kitten May 2016 #40

Trump IS a big-mouthed buffoon. 10 out of 10 pundits agree. randome May 2016 #44

Every time you visit du...who's face is on front page? Trump. Or Cruz whereisjustice May 2016 #61

Trump is a product of the twilight of Old White Male Dominance. randome May 2016 #62

The two parties differ in magnitude not direction Democratic momentum is to the right and lack of whereisjustice May 2016 #64

Nonsense, it's capitalist culture and JackRiddler May 2016 #51

"The repeal of the Fairness Doctrine, thanks to Bill Clinton" thucythucy May 2016 #76

What complete nonsense. So ridiculous, I'm mildly shocked. cali May 2016 #18

Seriously? Bush, Jr., Palin, Romney and now Trump? You don't see a pattern? randome May 2016 #21

Seriously. The culture as a whole can't be neatly divided that way cali May 2016 #30

All that did was to humanize the office, not degrade the culture, imo. randome May 2016 #35

Utter bullshit. It was not the equivalent of Fireside Chats cali May 2016 #36

Times are changing. sheshe2 May 2016 #87

The oval office and cigars. nt LWolf May 2016 #66

Well, that didn't help, that's for sure. But Presidential affairs and cross-dressing FBI directors.. randome May 2016 #73

No but you are wrong. Trump is product of Democratic Party failure... whereisjustice May 2016 #10

NOT "a lack of leadership and representation"... Cosmic Kitten May 2016 #14

Voter as expendable global commodity... meat for whereisjustice May 2016 #16

Got it, they are selling us out. Cosmic Kitten May 2016 #17

I believe the two of you have vocalized quite well Mbrow May 2016 #41

And why I left and became Unaffiliated/Independent. TPTB in the democratic party often do not RKP5637 May 2016 #59

Same here. Did it 2 decades ago. n/t Triana May 2016 #90

I see Trump as the "Boaty McBoatface" nominee SujiwanKenobee May 2016 #12

I think Boaty McBoatface was all just in fun. Drumpf is as much fun as a swift kick in the balls. truebrit71 May 2016 #23

Trumpy McTrumpface ? Mbrow May 2016 #42

It's called *DUMBING DOWN* and *COARSENING of CULTURE* Cosmic Kitten May 2016 #13

Fight Club was right... Moostache May 2016 #89

"Trump is as American as a Hot Pocket" and full of shit that is bad for you! Dustlawyer May 2016 #19

"bikini or thong"? They don't come that large! Divernan May 2016 #20

yes, you sound like a snob vlyons May 2016 #24

It's not about music or the sax. It's about the role pop culture has come to play in presidential cali May 2016 #25

You miss the point entirely. crim son May 2016 #27

They say that newspapers are going under because Americans get their content online. Trust Buster May 2016 #26

Mostly because they don't have time to take in the news or anything in-depth Blue_Adept May 2016 #32

I disagree. It's how the Americans choose to invest their time. Television viewership per day per Trust Buster May 2016 #37

I can only give the examples within my circle Blue_Adept May 2016 #39

Nixon on Laugh In. kairos12 May 2016 #29

LBJ's lifting beagles by the ears routine? Zambero May 2016 #43

Probably Cotton Mather giving in to the witch hunts. JackRiddler May 2016 #53

The more you disconnect from pop culture Blue_Adept May 2016 #31

I don't feel disconnected from young voters, but then I live in Vermont. cali May 2016 #34

If you can't keep up with what they're talking about Blue_Adept May 2016 #38

Oh, I can. I read. cali May 2016 #45

Good points Zambero May 2016 #49

It's not about disconnecting, it's about pandering and shaping. JackRiddler May 2016 #54

I am utterly uninterested in the Kardashians, Kanye, or Caitlyns nude photo shoot riderinthestorm May 2016 #57

Know plenty of young people who get sick at the mention of K fam and never watch TV Person 2713 May 2016 #85

"the abysmal degradation of American culture" is right. panader0 May 2016 #46

who said this? awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #55

Oscar Wilde. Nay May 2016 #67

Thank you... awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #68

I see our decline in culture, civility and honor tymorial May 2016 #58

Ice Cube said it best: Guy Whitey Corngood May 2016 #60

Damn Millennials, get off my lawn. NuclearDem May 2016 #69

If you are a snob, then I am right there with you. alarimer May 2016 #70

All circus, no bread. ThoughtCriminal May 2016 #71

"There you go again" was the beginning of the end for thinking in politics. U4ikLefty May 2016 #72

i think it has more to do with demographic changes in the country JI7 May 2016 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author tralala May 2016 #75

It's merely because our elections are rigged. fasttense May 2016 #77

Degradation from what? Scootaloo May 2016 #78

Good points. But it's the Age of Sanders too. Smarmie Doofus May 2016 #79

Hey, I like Hot Pockets. tclambert May 2016 #80

very filling for a fast-snack fix when I am stuck on an hours-long conference call Skittles May 2016 #86

Anti-Intellectualism is as American as baseball and apple pie. Odin2005 May 2016 #81

Politics, "News" and Entertainment fred v May 2016 #82

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #91

Agree Totally colsohlibgal May 2016 #92