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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon May 9, 2016, 04:03 AM May 2016

The massive U.S. bombing of a MSF Hospital in Afghanistan was a war crime [View all]

Last edited Mon May 9, 2016, 05:09 AM - Edit history (1)

its own investigatory report that excuses itself from war crimes, makes it clear that war crimes were committed. The laxity, justifications and excuses are about all we can expect.

And I'm damn sick of the ridiculous meme bio about how all service members are heroes and the best of the best.

They're just humans.

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The report details violations of the law of armed conflict committed by U.S. forces on the ground in Kunduz and in the AC-130 aircraft that carried out the attack that destroyed the hospital. The report notes, for instance, that the ground commander who ordered the strike and the aircrew "failed to comply with the LOAC (laws of armed conflict)" by making an "unreasonable" determination that the MSF facility was a lawful target and an unjustified blanket determination that all at the site were combatants, and ordering the attack on persons at the site even after observing that they did not appear to be armed or engaging in hostile activity.

Not all laws of war violations are war crimes -- only serious violations committed with criminal intent or recklessness. Yet two of the report's findings make clear that serious violations occurred. First, the attack was unlawfully indiscriminate because "neither commander distinguished between combatants and civilians nor a military objective and protected (civilian) property." Second, even if the commanders reasonably believed they were carrying out an attack on a lawful target, the report found that the attack was unlawfully disproportionate to the expected military gain of the attack.

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/04/opinions/kunduz-hospital-report-sifton/

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80 Countries Just Slammed the US Over Habit of Bombing Hospitals Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #1
welcome back from yr time out but the article you link to is a total lie uhnope May 2016 #12
You are always spot on! Thanks for pointing that out 7962 May 2016 #17
So this is what we've come to choie May 2016 #51
From the United Nations site: Resolution 2286, Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #32
you're intentionally deceiving, aren't you? uhnope May 2016 #33
arent you glad bernie votes every year to continue this sort of thing. nt msongs May 2016 #2
That's such a disgusting false claim. SHAME. cali May 2016 #3
How is it false NobodyHere May 2016 #54
Pure grade-A bullshit (lie), not surprising comin from you. Your credibility is non-existent. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #50
(MSF. not MSN) muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #4
You are correct. Duppers May 2016 #6
Thanks. I hate autocorrect cali May 2016 #7
A dumb idea, badly carried out. nt bemildred May 2016 #36
K&R emsimon33 May 2016 #5
Don't you know the West can kill who they want malaise May 2016 #8
Yup. And not for the first time: truebluegreen May 2016 #39
Precisely malaise May 2016 #40
I agree. It makes my skin crawl truebluegreen May 2016 #46
And we wonder why our planet is in such a mess malaise May 2016 #47
That's what corruption does in societies: truebluegreen May 2016 #48
Precisely malaise May 2016 #49
I agree with the spirit of your post GulfCoast66 May 2016 #63
hmm...why are 1000 posts about this accident to every 1 post about Russian/Assad careless bombings uhnope May 2016 #9
Perhaps because we hold ourselves to a higher standard than those countries? Matt_in_STL May 2016 #10
Your self-indulgent screed pontificates enough to make the Pope blush. uhnope May 2016 #13
Which years did you serve in the military? Matt_in_STL May 2016 #16
Maybe because there are plenty of posters paid to always slam the US? 7962 May 2016 #18
Asking our military to stop bombing hospitals and to not indiscriminately kill civilians? Matt_in_STL May 2016 #19
I'm speaking generally, not about this one incident. 7962 May 2016 #21
Made mistakes. What a sick, weak, justification. Read the fucking report cali May 2016 #26
"fucking report". Okay I get the lingo now. uhnope May 2016 #29
I lulz'd KG May 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #14
that's interesting, I hate the regressive left uhnope May 2016 #15
I despise justifications of U.S. malfeasance. It's sick. cali May 2016 #22
"an accident" is not the definition of "malfeasance" uhnope May 2016 #23
Read the fucking report cali May 2016 #27
Again, about that "fucking report"... uhnope May 2016 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #56
Gee. This is too easy. I'm an American. cali May 2016 #20
great. I actually care about human rights & abuses in the whole world uhnope May 2016 #24
I obviously was not saying that I don't care about human rights abuses worldwide. cali May 2016 #25
"beneath contempt"..."filthy and cheap." showing yr true colors, i see uhnope May 2016 #28
You put words in my mouth. One can't have a meaningful.discussion with cali May 2016 #31
This isn't Russia or Syria Matrosov May 2016 #38
We are living in ugly times. nt GliderGuider May 2016 #30
Looks like it might turn into the ugliest time in all of history if this trend continues. Enthusiast May 2016 #35
Only if you didn't actually know any history I suppose.. EX500rider May 2016 #58
But I happen to know history. Any disaster at this time would be amplified many fold Enthusiast May 2016 #60
Sorry, a slow rising of the sea level will not compare to.. EX500rider May 2016 #61
So who should be jailed or executed for this crime? 6chars May 2016 #34
The guy who illegitimately called in the strike should be tried. cali May 2016 #37
You would be ok with him being executed? 6chars May 2016 #41
Wtfuckity, Fuck Fuck? I said nothing of the sort. And for the record I've ben cali May 2016 #42
Imprisoned for life then? 6chars May 2016 #43
I have no idea. He could be found not guilty. But there is clearly enough to charge.him. cali May 2016 #44
that's not what the article says 6chars May 2016 #52
Others have been charged for breaking those rules of engagement. cali May 2016 #53
list of convicted war criminals 6chars May 2016 #57
Yes. They knew what they were bombing. polly7 May 2016 #45
"Yes. They knew what they were bombing" EX500rider May 2016 #59
And what about the repeated attacks from RU aircraft on MSF facilities? Blue_Tires May 2016 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #62
exactly how much RT do you take in on a daily basis? uhnope May 2016 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #66
Helllooo! Monster Putin in charge there Hydra May 2016 #64
to regressives, that does not compute uhnope May 2016 #68
The sad part is not only have there been multiple incidents Blue_Tires May 2016 #69
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