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FrodosPet

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5. It is ALL a dirty, nasty business

Wed May 11, 2016, 08:38 AM

May 2016

Lithium batteries still need a lot of copper and aluminum. So you still need the huge copper strip mines.

And lithium mining and processing is still a dirty business.
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Chemetall Foote Lithium Operation at Silver Peak

Greenbrushes Lithium Mine in Western Australia

Soquimich Lithium Mine (Chile)

Salar de Uyuni, Bolivia

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I am not saying that oil sands are any better. Between the greenhouse effect and the usefulness of petroleum in chemistry and materials manufacturing, we HAVE to get away from petroleum. But in the interest of truth, we have to acknowledge that technology is dirty pretty much all around.

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There is a new internet-meme going around, misinforming about electric cars. [View all] DetlefK May 2016 OP

It's a measure of how much oil profits have fallen Warren DeMontague May 2016 #1

no doubt circulated by your right-wing Uncle Liberty as proof of the perfidy and stupidity Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #2

and, it's amazing how quickly those RW memes proliferate NewJeffCT May 2016 #12

Yup James48 May 2016 #3

The Empire strikes back! Fuddnik May 2016 #4

It is ALL a dirty, nasty business FrodosPet May 2016 #5

The materials in the car are used continuously for years, whereas fuel is consumed. lagomorph777 May 2016 #14

Yeah, those oil sand sites in Canada... forgotmylogin May 2016 #6

Not to mention that lithium is used for LOTS of batteries TexasBushwhacker May 2016 #7

It's a matter of scale, EVs use a ~lot~ of batteries.... Fumesucker May 2016 #15

I didn't realize they could be recycled that way TexasBushwhacker May 2016 #18

Also, battery technology is improving. forgotmylogin May 2016 #8

Right-wingers have never been good at dealing with inconvenient details Vogon_Glory May 2016 #9

Yeah I've seen this too... 47of74 May 2016 #10

Batteries can be recycled, oil not so much. groundloop May 2016 #11

Memes are what the youth use now a days to make a point d_legendary1 May 2016 #13

K&R. Overseas May 2016 #16

Thank you for truth. jwirr May 2016 #17