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Lancero

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58. Bad decisions compounded by some very shitty luck.

Mon May 16, 2016, 06:07 PM

May 2016

Oil tanking punched holes in their economy, and their extensive use of hydroelectric power isn't doing them any favors in this drought. 70% hydroelectric generation + drought = no power.

I'm all for green energy, but banking EVERYTHING on hydro? That's just asking for a drought to come and screw you over.

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Venezuela has fallen/been pushed over the cliff. [View all] cali May 2016 OP

That is a mistranslation. AngryAmish May 2016 #1

Thread win on the first reply. Nt msanthrope May 2016 #7

Exactly. Venezuela is spelled C h i l e. leveymg May 2016 #53

Pushed over the cliff is correct malaise May 2016 #2

If you have proof that Maduro is a CIA plant, then, yes. Nt msanthrope May 2016 #8

As if that's the question. Octafish May 2016 #10

Funniest post, evah! Nt msanthrope May 2016 #11

No one pushed Venezuela off the cliff, they jumped. FLPanhandle May 2016 #3

Oh yes...the old America's fault excuse. ileus May 2016 #4

Anyone recall this? PufPuf23 May 2016 #5

Yep. Chavez' gratuitous ploy to gain support in the US by sending heating oil COLGATE4 May 2016 #6

Venezuela under Chavez just could not benefit regardless of actions. PufPuf23 May 2016 #9

Interesting. But it says nothing about 18 years of complete and total incompetence by Chavez COLGATE4 May 2016 #13

Chavez was President of Venezuela for 14 years; the first several years included PufPuf23 May 2016 #15

Seeing as the US is Venezuela's greatest trading partner I don't see how COLGATE4 May 2016 #16

Examples of where we cooperated in internal sabotage of industry? PufPuf23 May 2016 #19

The US bases in Colombia are and have been in support of Plan Colombia COLGATE4 May 2016 #21

There were two bases on the Dutch Antilles established under Plan Colombia, PufPuf23 May 2016 #26

So you're talking about 2 bases in the Dutch Antilles COLGATE4 May 2016 #31

The two Antilles FOLs and Manta were staffed with US military and contractors. PufPuf23 May 2016 #43

Agreed. COLGATE4 May 2016 #44

What "help" would you suggest the US give Maduro? COLGATE4 May 2016 #17

Bulk food and life necessities, no strings attached. PufPuf23 May 2016 #22

Doubtful. Venezuelan oil is of such low quality that it is COLGATE4 May 2016 #30

You are generalizing. Not all Venezuelan oil is heavy crude. PufPuf23 May 2016 #37

Not "all" - just most of it. COLGATE4 May 2016 #42

Do you realize the enormity of what you're suggesting? Bulk food for the population COLGATE4 May 2016 #32

I never said to feed all of Venezuela nor to take responsibilty for Venezuaelan woes. PufPuf23 May 2016 #39

I did a lot of work in and with Venezuela in the late 1990's and I can assure COLGATE4 May 2016 #41

I recall this... TampaAnimusVortex May 2016 #12

Are you serious? Pinochet was installed in a US-backed coup on 1973 and PufPuf23 May 2016 #14

Straw man is very strawy TampaAnimusVortex May 2016 #48

I don't doubt that the rate and period of per capita income growth in Chile you cite is OK. PufPuf23 May 2016 #49

Not quite... TampaAnimusVortex May 2016 #50

Note in the chart the dip that bottomed out in Chile in 1975 and continued until 1991. PufPuf23 May 2016 #51

Pardon me if I disagree TampaAnimusVortex May 2016 #56

Fine. eom. PufPuf23 May 2016 #57

Pretzel Logic Octafish May 2016 #18

Thank you for noticing Octafish. Made my day. eom PufPuf23 May 2016 #27

I've been fighting with the idiots over this, they are crowing about that bad socialism. Rex May 2016 #34

They are a member of a price fixing oil cartel mathematic May 2016 #52

It is a stretch to say OPEC has been a successful cartel in the 21st century. PufPuf23 May 2016 #55

Always enlightening to see non-capitalism in action. Nye Bevan May 2016 #20

For a government dependent on oil revenues... bhikkhu May 2016 #23

This. killbotfactory May 2016 #25

And despite being colonized longer than any other nation on the planet 1939 May 2016 #33

Chavez and Maduro fucked up Venezuela, not the US. Adrahil May 2016 #24

OPEC might be done, the bottoming out of oil has destroyed the nation and others are soon to follow. Rex May 2016 #28

This thread exposes the neoliberals on this board kcjohn1 May 2016 #29

Where do you get 5% from? NobodyHere May 2016 #35

Many places kcjohn1 May 2016 #36

That's a pretty old number NobodyHere May 2016 #40

LOL WSJ as source LOOOOOL kcjohn1 May 2016 #46

Except it hasn't; extreme poverty in Venezuela has doubled since 2007 Spider Jerusalem May 2016 #45

That's from before the Venezuelan collapse. Adrahil May 2016 #47

Yep. Only 5% are forced into eating dog meat. The others get to stand in line COLGATE4 May 2016 #38

Today Venezuela, tomorrow the U.S.A. hunter May 2016 #54

Bad decisions compounded by some very shitty luck. Lancero May 2016 #58