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ancianita

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32. We were not involved! We had no say! Don't let excuse makers drag you down with them!

Tue May 17, 2016, 04:03 PM

May 2016

Don't talk the talk of neurotics!

We are together to solve problems that "we" didn't make.

"We" don't take responsibility for the decisions that others made and we have to now suffer for. We can take responsibility for not taking age appropriate awareness of our society's dysfunctions, yes.

But this is about Saudi Arabia, not BLM. So let's not shift goalposts.

So, no. "We" won't be allowed in my political world until we get the true involvement that comes with transparency and public discussion BEFORE decisions are made, weapons sold, wars declared, trade agreement made, laws against people's differences made, etc.,

You know the spirit of responsibility I'm speaking from. So let's not pretend we "knew" or "had a say" or that we "did nothing to stop it"!!

We hate blaming the victim politics so let's not, instead, do it to each other. Okay??

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Why do we still support Saudi Arabia? [View all] hueymahl May 2016 OP

Because the people who run this country lust after money and power. djean111 May 2016 #1

Because they assisted bushcheneyco with MIHOP and made everyone involved rich. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #2

+1 tk2kewl May 2016 #7

9/11 was a U.S./Saudi Arabia operation. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #21

They very possibly hold some information that TPTB do not jwirr May 2016 #23

Indeed. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #25

we're stupid and shortsighted. MariaThinks May 2016 #3

Good customer for the MIC and they pay their bills on time. Gidney N Cloyd May 2016 #4

Because of Citi bank, Exxon-Mobil and Boeing Corp, and the Bushes and the Clintons leveymg May 2016 #5

Clinton's? lark May 2016 #19

That's what I used to think, before I took the time to look closely at the relationship leveymg May 2016 #26

yep... it does seem as if our govt is largely bought off by Saudi Arabia Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #39

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Skwmom May 2016 #6

Despotic regimes do everything they can to stay in power. Baobab May 2016 #40

Everyone here is mostly wrong. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #8

Words like immoral and evil don't fit The2ndWheel May 2016 #10

I think those words do apply, actually. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #28

Truth is a rare gem. saidsimplesimon May 2016 #18

We supported the Shah of Iran, who made the Saudia government look like princes Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #29

Yes we did, and that is probably the most direct cause of the present alliance. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #30

The Saudi royal family and the Bush family go way back. Doctor_J May 2016 #9

I do not know. oldandhappy May 2016 #11

Well that was an easy question. zeemike May 2016 #12

We are Saudi Arabia. They own a shitload of the U.S. nt valerief May 2016 #13

yep, the motherfuckers have bought us off, literally Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #33

There was an episode of American Dad where he considered Saudi Arabia to be idyllic.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2016 #14

Influence Matrosov May 2016 #15

Why do we keep using the rhetorical "we" who are entirely someone else? ancianita May 2016 #16

But we are citizens of the USA. That means we were involved. jwirr May 2016 #27

We were not involved! We had no say! Don't let excuse makers drag you down with them! ancianita May 2016 #32

the "powers that be" then Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #34

No one is responsible for their representatives' betraying their voters' interests in the ancianita May 2016 #36

your points are well-taken and seriously, fuck the leaders of Saudi Arabia Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #38

As I said above, the we who are responsible do try to solve problems others -- but not ancianita May 2016 #41

I bet I wouldn't last one hour there yuiyoshida May 2016 #17

They are our good friends in the region! Our close ally. Rex May 2016 #20

Because until there is a reliable, affordable alternative source StarTrombone May 2016 #22

actually, the US doesn't even use that much oil from Saudi Arabia Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #35

Oil is a fungible commodity StarTrombone May 2016 #37

the Donald will renegotiate the price of oil around the globe and settle the problems NoMoreRepugs May 2016 #24

They're still a huge client state for the US weapons industry. MrScorpio May 2016 #31