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Vinca

(50,168 posts)
18. Bottom line: insurance companies get what they pay for.
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:45 AM
May 2016

I'm thinking the Democratic Party should split into two parties: the People's Democratic Party and the Corporate Democratic Party.

Would these be the same establishment Democrats who assured us Obamacare was but merrily May 2016 #1
These fake Dems TrueDemVA May 2016 #3
The whole fake Dems, real Dems debate is counter productive, IMO. merrily May 2016 #4
Absolutely agree TrueDemVA May 2016 #13
Oh, I am very pro a fight. Which war(s) to fight, however, is another issue. merrily May 2016 #14
We agree TrueDemVA May 2016 #15
A group of Bernie's campaign staff split off of the campaign to start Bernie's next assault. Dustlawyer May 2016 #32
Didn't know that. Duval May 2016 #39
Website Link baran May 2016 #42
Thanks. Great. JDPriestly May 2016 #86
So now we know why staffers 'abandoned' his campaign.... blackspade May 2016 #47
Just to repeat: MID-TERMS ARE IMPORTANT, PEOPLE!! :) Beartracks May 2016 #56
I hope so TrueDemVA May 2016 #69
This is excellent news passiveporcupine May 2016 #74
Very sad, but very true nikto May 2016 #82
These Democrats are economic RepubliCONS fasttense May 2016 #19
Are you sure neoliberals have no problems with social liberal ideals? merrily May 2016 #23
Hmm good point fasttense May 2016 #54
this sort of verifies what Bernie has been saying all the time-The third way gang! dmosh42 May 2016 #2
How? The campaign and a pro-Clinton PAC hired the same consultant Recursion May 2016 #6
Definitely pengu May 2016 #26
You mean besides Hillary herself saying it? Jackilope May 2016 #27
Basically said it? She couldn't have said it any louder than the scream when she said it. n/t tom_kelly May 2016 #34
A 1995 Clinton era trade deal made it that way. To get single payer we have to change it first. Baobab May 2016 #59
Thank you n/t tom_kelly May 2016 #70
There's a difference in saying it won't happen with our Congress and saying she doesn't want it to Hoyt May 2016 #53
as far as I can tell she opposes it in principle and practice stupidicus May 2016 #60
I think she's politically astute and she'll get us closer to SP than Sanders Hoyt May 2016 #64
if and ONLY if stupidicus May 2016 #67
A Public Option is market based only in the sense that it lets us Hoyt May 2016 #68
none of that alters the deliberate deception behind the claim stupidicus May 2016 #87
Again, she says single payer won't happen. Similarly if asked, she would say cancer will not be Hoyt May 2016 #90
meaningless garbage that in no rebuts her anti-gov/single payer stance stupidicus May 2016 #98
Our government is fighting single pyer around the world, public education too. Baobab May 2016 #104
She's right for forseeable future .... AlbertCat May 2016 #62
She had a good plan at the time. Might as well criticize Truman who first proposed Hoyt May 2016 #65
She had a good plan at the time. AlbertCat May 2016 #66
It was a cover up to cover up that they were writing an FTA that made single payer FTA illegal. Baobab May 2016 #113
It was not a good plan considering that at the same time they were writing the global deal Baobab May 2016 #107
She had to hide GVT5- people would have gone insane in 1994 if they knew about GVT5 Baobab May 2016 #106
"Public option" fails because of bothGATS Article I:3 (b)(c) issue AND AdverseSelection>death spiral Baobab May 2016 #75
The GATS is junk. Any country is allowed to rescind GATS assuming it even applies in this Hoyt May 2016 #83
TiSA uses ISDS so TiSA is more binding. See the Maine ctpc document. Baobab May 2016 #88
There is absolutely nothing in all of that which prohibits the USA from going to a Public Option, Hoyt May 2016 #89
Yes there is, you don't even have the foggiest idea of what you are saying. Baobab May 2016 #91
Then tell Sanders to quit talking about Single Payer. Sorry you are wrong. Hoyt May 2016 #97
USTR supports my position, other countries can't have it. We obviously can't have it either. Baobab May 2016 #99
Looks like Maine went ahead with its health plan, despite inquiry you cite written 10 years ago. Hoyt May 2016 #102
No, it died. Baobab May 2016 #108
No it ended in 2013, being replaced by ACA. There goes your GATS concern. Hoyt May 2016 #109
Thats what I meant. Nothing can change because of GATS. ACA is another in a chain of failures. Baobab May 2016 #110
Things have changed since GATS started a few decades ago. You need a new world conspiracy theory. Hoyt May 2016 #111
No they havent, as I said, its clear from TiSA Baobab May 2016 #112
Keep killing people. No way. Baobab May 2016 #100
Hiring the same consultant is a "direct link"? Recursion May 2016 #5
Hillary herself said it will never happen. nt retrowire May 2016 #30
"There is a disconnect between the powers that be and the people" clearly states the party`s problem democrank May 2016 #7
Have to protect the private corporate interests .. ananda May 2016 #8
I'm shocked, shocked, I...well, no I'm not. ms liberty May 2016 #9
K&R! This post should receive hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast May 2016 #10
All part of the Dem leadership plan to keep the Republican Party viable. Scuba May 2016 #11
Right on point... disillusioned73 May 2016 #72
They have been doing this for a while. Enthusiast May 2016 #77
A Preview Of A HRC Administration cantbeserious May 2016 #12
Please stop roomtomove May 2016 #24
Bug In Honor Of Fallen DU Comrades At The Hands Of Paid Disruptors cantbeserious May 2016 #25
Never in my voting life did I expect Democrats to fight against AllyCat May 2016 #16
They're been doing it for over 20 years. NT clg311 May 2016 #45
Help bankrupt everybody. Baobab May 2016 #92
Policy before party. Promethean May 2016 #17
See my post above, Bernie and some of his now former campaign staff have a plan. Dustlawyer May 2016 #33
Bottom line: insurance companies get what they pay for. Vinca May 2016 #18
When two politicians agree, you don't need one of them. These voters might jtuck004 May 2016 #20
So by incremental they mean nothing ybbor May 2016 #21
YAY! Let's keep the bake-sale-to-bankruptcy Insurance"Care" going!! HughBeaumont May 2016 #22
Kicked. MaeScott May 2016 #28
kick midnight May 2016 #29
knr! retrowire May 2016 #31
+1000000! SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #50
You get what you vote for Victor_c3 May 2016 #55
The D brand is severely tarnished. It's looking a lot like the R brand of yesteryear. -nt CrispyQ May 2016 #35
This election is party over principle Feeling the Bern May 2016 #76
K&R!!! Katashi_itto May 2016 #36
well gosh, I wonder why dems are fighting against medicare for all since they would bbgrunt May 2016 #37
Fucking pathetic. blackspade May 2016 #38
pathetically laughable. Hiraeth May 2016 #40
A rose by any other name SusanLarson May 2016 #41
Once again, Hillary and her supporters are squarely on the side SheilaT May 2016 #43
We're getting Hillary for the same reason we got Obamacare... afertal May 2016 #44
Or die with it if you're poor. Around a million and a half have. Baobab May 2016 #96
Damn—we need Bernie. zentrum May 2016 #46
This is why I'm having such a hard time deciding.... mudstump May 2016 #48
Establiment dems jpmonk91 May 2016 #49
Of late, I prefer to call them Vichy Democrats nt dflprincess May 2016 #71
It's an excellent name, Vichy Democrats. Enthusiast May 2016 #81
Very appropriate to this situation, given Hillary's propensity to grandiosity and millitarism. Baobab May 2016 #93
Shameful. Profits over people. azmom May 2016 #51
Very disturbing MariaThinks May 2016 #52
This pretty much tells everyone whose side... ReRe May 2016 #57
I am with you! Enthusiast May 2016 #78
Seriously! ReRe May 2016 #79
And done only to protect the profits of the health care/insurance industry. Enthusiast May 2016 #80
And keep people buying useless junk instead of saving money. Baobab May 2016 #94
Read the grey text in my sig for the other reason. Baobab May 2016 #95
K & R Thespian2 May 2016 #58
sad, and for no good reasons and shameless excuses. Must be Hillarians. stupidicus May 2016 #61
K&R mountain grammy May 2016 #63
"Coloradans for Coloradans"? MisterP May 2016 #73
I can't believe this post has only 131 recommendations. Enthusiast May 2016 #84
Well, of course they do. cliffordu May 2016 #85
I thought all Dems were for 100% healthcare coverage? But not Hillary, huh? Zen Democrat May 2016 #101
I'm not sure why this is surprising. The ACA passed without a single republican vote, hughee99 May 2016 #103
A vote for Hillary Clinton YankeeBravo May 2016 #105
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