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Baobab

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112. No they havent, as I said, its clear from TiSA
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:43 PM
May 2016

Look at the TiSA mandate, there you will see standstill, ratchet, rollback, just as before.

TiSA also is default everything on so its, as they say, GATS on steroids.

Do some research Hoyt.

Recommendation, watch Sanya Reid Smith's videos on YouTube.

Good day!

Would these be the same establishment Democrats who assured us Obamacare was but merrily May 2016 #1
These fake Dems TrueDemVA May 2016 #3
The whole fake Dems, real Dems debate is counter productive, IMO. merrily May 2016 #4
Absolutely agree TrueDemVA May 2016 #13
Oh, I am very pro a fight. Which war(s) to fight, however, is another issue. merrily May 2016 #14
We agree TrueDemVA May 2016 #15
A group of Bernie's campaign staff split off of the campaign to start Bernie's next assault. Dustlawyer May 2016 #32
Didn't know that. Duval May 2016 #39
Website Link baran May 2016 #42
Thanks. Great. JDPriestly May 2016 #86
So now we know why staffers 'abandoned' his campaign.... blackspade May 2016 #47
Just to repeat: MID-TERMS ARE IMPORTANT, PEOPLE!! :) Beartracks May 2016 #56
I hope so TrueDemVA May 2016 #69
This is excellent news passiveporcupine May 2016 #74
Very sad, but very true nikto May 2016 #82
These Democrats are economic RepubliCONS fasttense May 2016 #19
Are you sure neoliberals have no problems with social liberal ideals? merrily May 2016 #23
Hmm good point fasttense May 2016 #54
this sort of verifies what Bernie has been saying all the time-The third way gang! dmosh42 May 2016 #2
How? The campaign and a pro-Clinton PAC hired the same consultant Recursion May 2016 #6
Definitely pengu May 2016 #26
You mean besides Hillary herself saying it? Jackilope May 2016 #27
Basically said it? She couldn't have said it any louder than the scream when she said it. n/t tom_kelly May 2016 #34
A 1995 Clinton era trade deal made it that way. To get single payer we have to change it first. Baobab May 2016 #59
Thank you n/t tom_kelly May 2016 #70
There's a difference in saying it won't happen with our Congress and saying she doesn't want it to Hoyt May 2016 #53
as far as I can tell she opposes it in principle and practice stupidicus May 2016 #60
I think she's politically astute and she'll get us closer to SP than Sanders Hoyt May 2016 #64
if and ONLY if stupidicus May 2016 #67
A Public Option is market based only in the sense that it lets us Hoyt May 2016 #68
none of that alters the deliberate deception behind the claim stupidicus May 2016 #87
Again, she says single payer won't happen. Similarly if asked, she would say cancer will not be Hoyt May 2016 #90
meaningless garbage that in no rebuts her anti-gov/single payer stance stupidicus May 2016 #98
Our government is fighting single pyer around the world, public education too. Baobab May 2016 #104
She's right for forseeable future .... AlbertCat May 2016 #62
She had a good plan at the time. Might as well criticize Truman who first proposed Hoyt May 2016 #65
She had a good plan at the time. AlbertCat May 2016 #66
It was a cover up to cover up that they were writing an FTA that made single payer FTA illegal. Baobab May 2016 #113
It was not a good plan considering that at the same time they were writing the global deal Baobab May 2016 #107
She had to hide GVT5- people would have gone insane in 1994 if they knew about GVT5 Baobab May 2016 #106
"Public option" fails because of bothGATS Article I:3 (b)(c) issue AND AdverseSelection>death spiral Baobab May 2016 #75
The GATS is junk. Any country is allowed to rescind GATS assuming it even applies in this Hoyt May 2016 #83
TiSA uses ISDS so TiSA is more binding. See the Maine ctpc document. Baobab May 2016 #88
There is absolutely nothing in all of that which prohibits the USA from going to a Public Option, Hoyt May 2016 #89
Yes there is, you don't even have the foggiest idea of what you are saying. Baobab May 2016 #91
Then tell Sanders to quit talking about Single Payer. Sorry you are wrong. Hoyt May 2016 #97
USTR supports my position, other countries can't have it. We obviously can't have it either. Baobab May 2016 #99
Looks like Maine went ahead with its health plan, despite inquiry you cite written 10 years ago. Hoyt May 2016 #102
No, it died. Baobab May 2016 #108
No it ended in 2013, being replaced by ACA. There goes your GATS concern. Hoyt May 2016 #109
Thats what I meant. Nothing can change because of GATS. ACA is another in a chain of failures. Baobab May 2016 #110
Things have changed since GATS started a few decades ago. You need a new world conspiracy theory. Hoyt May 2016 #111
No they havent, as I said, its clear from TiSA Baobab May 2016 #112
Keep killing people. No way. Baobab May 2016 #100
Hiring the same consultant is a "direct link"? Recursion May 2016 #5
Hillary herself said it will never happen. nt retrowire May 2016 #30
"There is a disconnect between the powers that be and the people" clearly states the party`s problem democrank May 2016 #7
Have to protect the private corporate interests .. ananda May 2016 #8
I'm shocked, shocked, I...well, no I'm not. ms liberty May 2016 #9
K&R! This post should receive hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast May 2016 #10
All part of the Dem leadership plan to keep the Republican Party viable. Scuba May 2016 #11
Right on point... disillusioned73 May 2016 #72
They have been doing this for a while. Enthusiast May 2016 #77
A Preview Of A HRC Administration cantbeserious May 2016 #12
Please stop roomtomove May 2016 #24
Bug In Honor Of Fallen DU Comrades At The Hands Of Paid Disruptors cantbeserious May 2016 #25
Never in my voting life did I expect Democrats to fight against AllyCat May 2016 #16
They're been doing it for over 20 years. NT clg311 May 2016 #45
Help bankrupt everybody. Baobab May 2016 #92
Policy before party. Promethean May 2016 #17
See my post above, Bernie and some of his now former campaign staff have a plan. Dustlawyer May 2016 #33
Bottom line: insurance companies get what they pay for. Vinca May 2016 #18
When two politicians agree, you don't need one of them. These voters might jtuck004 May 2016 #20
So by incremental they mean nothing ybbor May 2016 #21
YAY! Let's keep the bake-sale-to-bankruptcy Insurance"Care" going!! HughBeaumont May 2016 #22
Kicked. MaeScott May 2016 #28
kick midnight May 2016 #29
knr! retrowire May 2016 #31
+1000000! SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #50
You get what you vote for Victor_c3 May 2016 #55
The D brand is severely tarnished. It's looking a lot like the R brand of yesteryear. -nt CrispyQ May 2016 #35
This election is party over principle Feeling the Bern May 2016 #76
K&R!!! Katashi_itto May 2016 #36
well gosh, I wonder why dems are fighting against medicare for all since they would bbgrunt May 2016 #37
Fucking pathetic. blackspade May 2016 #38
pathetically laughable. Hiraeth May 2016 #40
A rose by any other name SusanLarson May 2016 #41
Once again, Hillary and her supporters are squarely on the side SheilaT May 2016 #43
We're getting Hillary for the same reason we got Obamacare... afertal May 2016 #44
Or die with it if you're poor. Around a million and a half have. Baobab May 2016 #96
Damn—we need Bernie. zentrum May 2016 #46
This is why I'm having such a hard time deciding.... mudstump May 2016 #48
Establiment dems jpmonk91 May 2016 #49
Of late, I prefer to call them Vichy Democrats nt dflprincess May 2016 #71
It's an excellent name, Vichy Democrats. Enthusiast May 2016 #81
Very appropriate to this situation, given Hillary's propensity to grandiosity and millitarism. Baobab May 2016 #93
Shameful. Profits over people. azmom May 2016 #51
Very disturbing MariaThinks May 2016 #52
This pretty much tells everyone whose side... ReRe May 2016 #57
I am with you! Enthusiast May 2016 #78
Seriously! ReRe May 2016 #79
And done only to protect the profits of the health care/insurance industry. Enthusiast May 2016 #80
And keep people buying useless junk instead of saving money. Baobab May 2016 #94
Read the grey text in my sig for the other reason. Baobab May 2016 #95
K & R Thespian2 May 2016 #58
sad, and for no good reasons and shameless excuses. Must be Hillarians. stupidicus May 2016 #61
K&R mountain grammy May 2016 #63
"Coloradans for Coloradans"? MisterP May 2016 #73
I can't believe this post has only 131 recommendations. Enthusiast May 2016 #84
Well, of course they do. cliffordu May 2016 #85
I thought all Dems were for 100% healthcare coverage? But not Hillary, huh? Zen Democrat May 2016 #101
I'm not sure why this is surprising. The ACA passed without a single republican vote, hughee99 May 2016 #103
A vote for Hillary Clinton YankeeBravo May 2016 #105
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