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athena

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21. But it's all part of the same problem.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jun 2016

For example, in societies where sexism is even stronger than it is in the U.S., women, when they're among themselves, will say things that are extremely disparaging of men. Women will believe, for example, that a man is stronger, and that one absolutely needs a man as head of household to deal with certain problems, but they will also believe that women are wiser than men, and that men are almost childlike in their lack of common sense. You can call that misandry, but it's really a coping mechanism. Humans seem to resist the idea that they are intrinsically inferior to others. If they accept that they are inferior in some way, they will believe they are superior in another way. Remove the misogyny, and the misandry will disappear. Trying to fight misandry directly won't work because you're fighting a symptom and ignoring the cause. And going on about misandry only annoys women who have to deal with misogyny on a daily basis.

By the way, I find it a bit simplistic to say that some people are misogynists and others are not. We all live in a sexist and racist society. It would be inhuman to be totally uninfluenced by our environment. Regardless of our gender and race, we all have sexist and racist tendencies. (I don't mean that women are misandrists and men are misogynists, and that whites are biased against blacks and blacks against whites. Take a look at this.) Accepting this is the only way to fight it.

P.S. Someone once told me something very valuable: that when people talk, they usually talk about themselves. So the person who said your wife was "strong and independent" for leaving you might be in an unhappy relationship that she's having trouble ending. So perhaps you shouldn't take it personally.

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I'm genuinely sorry about your experience. Tal Vez Jun 2016 #1
You're missing the forest for the trees. athena Jun 2016 #2
The succinctness and clarity of your post is almost as good as its content. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #3
That was so beautifully explained. blue neen Jun 2016 #4
Thank you, LanternWaste and blue neen, for the kind words. athena Jun 2016 #10
I agree with you, Athena... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #12
Agree yuiyoshida Jun 2016 #43
How do you reconcile holding others to a higher standard than you yourself employ? LanternWaste Jun 2016 #5
I hold myself to the same standard... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #7
the very definition of holding others to a higher standard than you hold yourself to. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #16
Or you could get to know me in real life... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #19
An observation is not a judgement. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #25
Okay. Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #31
But it's all part of the same problem. athena Jun 2016 #21
Is this because your use of "HillaryHoochies" got your post hidden? cwydro Jun 2016 #6
BernieBros... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #8
So upped the ante by getting in the mud with whoever said that to you. cwydro Jun 2016 #9
Okay... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #11
Let's examine the difference... whatthehey Jun 2016 #13
Well..... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #17
Anywhere from neutral to insulting, but that's irrelevant whatthehey Jun 2016 #24
In my very large circle... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #28
Even though your circle is large... Blanks Jun 2016 #60
That's understandable... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #63
I agree, it's not meant as a compliment... Blanks Jun 2016 #65
Hey...if we replaced Hillary Clinton with Elizabeth Warren... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #66
Your wife fucking you over doesn't make her or any sufrommich Jun 2016 #14
I don't doubt he was hurt by his divorce REP Jun 2016 #15
BernieBros.... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #18
It is not a pejorative that implies sexual licentiousness REP Jun 2016 #20
The intent was not to label other women as promiscuous... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #23
I agree Bernie Bro is dumb, but "Hilary Hoochies" is offensively dumb REP Jun 2016 #33
Did you just say that I was cuckolded? Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #35
Weren't you? "Two years ago, my wife embarked on an affair with a wealthy man." REP Jun 2016 #40
I don't know if you're aware... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #45
Oh, irony. REP Jun 2016 #48
I apologized... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #51
Not only... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #53
I'd also like to point out... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #22
The suspicion may stem from the fact that many of your recent posts use the word "bitch" LanternWaste Jun 2016 #26
In real life...I call women that are jerks "assholes"... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #29
The only thing I "suspect" is that only one side of the story has been told here REP Jun 2016 #34
Yes.... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #36
There are always two sides when a relationship fails REP Jun 2016 #42
Already apologized for it...and explained why i used it. Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #47
So stop behaving abhorrently by calling women "Hoochies" REP Jun 2016 #49
I apologized... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #54
If I had fucked her over by cheating on her... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #39
You seem like such a nice guy. /nt yardwork Jun 2016 #27
I am... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #30
This is not a good way to work your anger toward your wife. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #32
No. Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #37
And seriously... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #41
I think you've been wounded, maybe even damaged, by your failed marriage... aikoaiko Jun 2016 #52
I'm racking up a transparency page... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #55
Victim blaming. Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #38
... just not the way you had hoped. REP Jun 2016 #46
No...i didn't hope for anybody to prove my point... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #59
Been there... sendero Jun 2016 #44
And I don't think many of these posters... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #50
We've all been hurt Buddy. cwydro Jun 2016 #57
I loved the hell out of her cwydro... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #58
Yes, I sure do. cwydro Jun 2016 #61
20 months.... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #62
20 months is not very long. cwydro Jun 2016 #64
Thank you very much.... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #67
I've been there. cwydro Jun 2016 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #69
What's stunning to me... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #56
Locking... one_voice Jun 2016 #70
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