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4. peculiar case, as supreme court cases go.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:46 AM
Jun 2016

seems like a one-off kind of decision that should have been resolved in ali's favor by a lower court.

then again, many people just had it in for ali, which no doubt had much to do with why he had to go all the way to the top court.

that said, the supreme court generally prefers to clarify law and establish judicial guidelines and principles, and this really did none of that, being decided on a technicality.


on the merits, in the end, i'm not sure ali would have won. i'm not disputing that his beliefs weren't sincere, but i was under the impression that conscientious objector status couldn't pick and choose which war to fight in. if ali objected to the war in vietnam, but believed that war was ok if called for by "allah or the messenger", then i would think that would disqualify him from conscientious objector status.

regardless, i admire him for sticking to his principles, even at the expense of several years of what would have been the peak of a career that was incredible even without being able to box during that time.

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Muhammed Ali spoke truth to power. raging moderate Jun 2016 #1
He won his case 8-0 at the Supreme Court Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #2
+1000! Logical Jun 2016 #3
peculiar case, as supreme court cases go. unblock Jun 2016 #4
Nice post! Nt Logical Jun 2016 #12
There are interesting aspects H2O Man Jun 2016 #16
indeed -- it went from 5-3 to uphold the conviction to 8-0 to overturn. unblock Jun 2016 #21
Who was the young lawyer? n/t FourScore Jun 2016 #31
A landmark and thoughtfully decided case. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #5
There was a good movie about it on HBO Major Nikon Jun 2016 #35
I so loved it heaven05 Jun 2016 #6
He was a warrior. yellerpup Jun 2016 #7
He would have voted for Sanders. n/t leeroysphitz Jun 2016 #8
No question. Enthusiast Jun 2016 #23
Not after he had someone who called Obama some form of nigger stump for him in IA and NH in front uponit7771 Jun 2016 #44
A great man. I wonder what his thoughts were about our Mid-East wars. jalan48 Jun 2016 #9
According to wikipedia, he was not anti-war, he supported Islamic war. braddy Jun 2016 #32
He became a hero to me.. exactly at that moment. mountain grammy Jun 2016 #10
Me too. To stand up to government, yahoos, etc., at risk of career and even life for what's right. Hoyt Jun 2016 #11
He and the government knew they would never send him into harms way..... Logical Jun 2016 #13
Me too, mountain grammy! Enthusiast Jun 2016 #24
A man of convictions madokie Jun 2016 #14
Thank you. H2O Man Jun 2016 #17
Great post. Hoyt Jun 2016 #19
Right on, madokie! Enthusiast Jun 2016 #25
Great post! Nt Logical Jun 2016 #41
He sacrificed the prime of his career to do what was right. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #15
A very brave man who . . FairWinds Jun 2016 #18
So true Logical Jun 2016 #42
Just imagine if every drafted soldier did this. How powerful would the oligarchs be now? nt valerief Jun 2016 #20
Exactly! Enthusiast Jun 2016 #27
+ 1 nt laundry_queen Jun 2016 #34
To thine own self be true felix_numinous Jun 2016 #22
We could have had peace every single day since the Vietnam War ended. Enthusiast Jun 2016 #26
video napkinz Jun 2016 #28
Thank You! nt Logical Jun 2016 #29
Wow!!! C Moon Jun 2016 #33
standing there around a sea of bigotry. hopemountain Jun 2016 #36
I remember hearing his words over the A.M. radio. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #30
It was a blessing for all of this that this man was in our lives. jwirr Jun 2016 #37
+1000! nt Logical Jun 2016 #38
What leaps out at me is "rob me of my nationality" Ellen Forradalom Jun 2016 #39
Great point! nt Logical Jun 2016 #40
My guess is Clarence Thomas would have ruled against Ali.... 4bucksagallon Jun 2016 #43
A Lesson to Be Learned from The Greatest 13Dogs Jun 2016 #45
Thanks for this! nt Logical Jun 2016 #47
Kick and Rec. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #46
right, left, right, left Jnclr89 Jun 2016 #48
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