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Angel Martin

(942 posts)
36. i guess I wasn't clear
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:29 AM
Jun 2016

my point was that in many of the countries they are fleeing, they do face the death penalty for renouncing Islam and converting to something else

in Germany, they don't face death for converting, hence more do.

One thing that does still happen, converts are often shunned by their families after conversion. I attend anglican churches in two different cities, and we have had muslim converts that have been rejected by their families in both congregations.

Kick. smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #1
Very Interesting libodem Jun 2016 #2
I kind of feel like a drastic change like that would take more introspection Bradical79 Jun 2016 #4
True Story libodem Jun 2016 #11
Sad. Trading one form of superstition for another one does not lead closeupready Jun 2016 #3
Proving, again, that religion is really about access to resources, not deities or dogma. lindysalsagal Jun 2016 #5
maybe sometimes Mosby Jun 2016 #7
Being in a nation where they are allowed to learn about Jesus and leave Islam, makes the difference. braddy Jun 2016 #6
This. EL34x4 Jun 2016 #10
Superstition a-la-carte. How wonderful! N/t. lindysalsagal Jun 2016 #18
Hell of a lot better GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #20
They probably already know, since Jesus is mentioned in the Koran by name 93 times . . . hatrack Jun 2016 #22
No, they don't know about Jesus, they don't learn about him reading Mohammed's Koran. braddy Jun 2016 #24
Oh, OK, got it. hatrack Jun 2016 #30
"..allowed to learn about Jesus and leave Islam," Angel Martin Jun 2016 #34
Interesting that you mention (claim?) that a Muslim won't be executed for becoming A Christian braddy Jun 2016 #35
i guess I wasn't clear Angel Martin Jun 2016 #36
Sorry that I misunderstood you.Your post is correct and I read it wrong. braddy Jun 2016 #43
Wait, what? I thought Obama wanted to convert everyone here to Islam and impose Sharia Law? madinmaryland Jun 2016 #8
You're missing class at the Federal Madrasa! hatrack Jun 2016 #23
Thanks for posting this. I had not heard of this before. I wonder pampango Jun 2016 #9
I am thinking this may help things a bit. smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #16
It is now mainstream in europe to be resistant to immigrants in general. Quantess Jun 2016 #19
If true the far-right must be happy. They have been anti-immigrant for a long time. pampango Jun 2016 #25
The RW nationalists are gaining popularity, and the more mainstream parties are finally noticing Quantess Jun 2016 #37
RW populists are gaining in Europe and the US. Much of the left is fighting their anti-refugee pampango Jun 2016 #42
Very interesting. If true it will mean assimilation and that jwirr Jun 2016 #12
Now that's interesting treestar Jun 2016 #13
It's not that they can't... TipTok Jun 2016 #15
One superstition for another... TipTok Jun 2016 #14
At least they are trying to assimilate. smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #46
It's not bad... TipTok Jun 2016 #48
Or one imaginary national border for another. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #49
Bored? TipTok Jul 2016 #50
Well - the discos are full too. They didn't have the freedom to do this in most countries of origin Yo_Mama Jun 2016 #17
It wasn't always so bad... Democrats Ascendant Jun 2016 #28
Funny you should mention this Chitown Kev Jun 2016 #38
There is hope. smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #47
I hope they find happiness in their new churches, Ilsa Jun 2016 #21
I wish them all the best and offer them my prayers and best wishes in their new faith. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #26
Interesting, but I wonder.... Democrats Ascendant Jun 2016 #27
And I Bet The Absence Of Heavily-Armed Bullyboys Helped The Process Vogon_Glory Jun 2016 #29
Think for yourself, people. Stop following manipulators NightWatcher Jun 2016 #31
Looking at it cynically, a conversion would cement their refugee status daleo Jun 2016 #32
Good point! smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #41
Uh oh ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #33
I think I can guess who that is. smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #40
Europe will change because Christianity stinks! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #44
May I point out that there are large Christian communities in Syria Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #39
the new kids at the new school want to fit in Really that simple dembotoz Jun 2016 #45
Probably 2 big reasons Warpy Jul 2016 #51
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