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cloudythescribbler

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81. this is all silliness -- Trump will be the nominee, whatever chatter there is to the contrary
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 04:38 PM
Jun 2016

And some people here seem to assume that he can't get elected. I hope so, but worry otherwise. A lot can happen, and of course Hillary is a lightening-rod to the RW, energizing them and uniting them, when all the hot news cycles end

of course, Trump is unpredictable, but this can cut in more than one way

It is important therefore -- NOT to alienate my fellow Bernie supporters (this should have been a priority starting at the latest after March 15). I will vote to stop Trump & so will Bernie, but unifying the Party rather than trying to control the narrative completely (a major reason for the hardball from the mainstream, and all this nonsense about how important it is for Bernie to quit as soon as possible, etc)

It is also important to pick a VP that can really help to unify the Party. I do NOT think that Sen Warren wants to run on the ticket but I could be wrong. But a choice like Biden in 08 (when the Democrats were headed to a big victory and had a much more mass-appealing candidate) won't do now ...

Third, it WILL be necessary to unleash the SUPERPacs against Trump (for those who might be too pure for this) and yes he WILL have to be attacked from some quarters in his own terms (as Bill Maher recently noted)

I am not a political strategy pro, so don't have too much by way of particulars or other strategies, just thinking this kind of idle notion that Trump will pull out now is distracting

I hope this isn't too blunt for some

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Clinton is such a weak candidate that if the GOP ran someone sane, like Ryan, PatrickforO Jun 2016 #1
Wha? GaYellowDawg Jun 2016 #5
Sane-ER by comparison, maybe? I dunno. nt King_Klonopin Jun 2016 #11
Excellent analogy and excellent word to describe him! randome Jun 2016 #24
Oh nooooooooooo!!! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #72
With Democrats like you, who needs Republicans ? OnDoutside Jun 2016 #10
Exactly...nt joeybee12 Jun 2016 #21
Right??!?!! Makes you wonder...... AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #59
We don't need them. SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #73
Ignoring the fact that Hillary won most of the primarys, won more of the votes, still_one Jun 2016 #77
Why are you on DU if you are a Ryan fan? leftofcool Jun 2016 #12
Ryan fan? HUH ??? pangaia Jun 2016 #30
Consider the source. -none Jun 2016 #43
I did ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #49
You are right. pangaia Jun 2016 #50
It's misconstruing your post. SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #74
Clinton mercuryblues Jun 2016 #13
You need to check your numbers unc70 Jun 2016 #19
Yes, Indeed ProfessorGAC Jun 2016 #32
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #26
Delete a zero, and you'll be very close. Yo_Mama Jun 2016 #39
She's been running for 10 years and that's the best she could do? Loudestlib Jun 2016 #61
GOP has gotten more total votes - candidates. SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #75
Agreed. Her 56% disapproval rating attests to this. Herman4747 Jun 2016 #17
Ryan is dumb as a rock. ladjf Jun 2016 #18
The fact that you identify Ryan as "sane" calls the rest of your reasoning into question Orrex Jun 2016 #35
BS. I didn't say he wasn't odious. I just said most perceive him as sane. PatrickforO Jun 2016 #45
Don't worry about them. They purposely misread things Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #52
Golly! Orrex Jun 2016 #57
Ryan sounds reasonable to the average person. hollowdweller Jun 2016 #56
Gore did win! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #78
Ryan - sane? liberal N proud Jun 2016 #53
I'm not sure I agree with that article. hollowdweller Jun 2016 #54
I sincerely hope you're right. One thing's for sure, though - PatrickforO Jun 2016 #65
she's so weak that bernie lost to her by over 3 million votes La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #66
excuse me, how did such a "weak" candidate get more votes in the primary? still_one Jun 2016 #76
Matt Taibbi has jumped the shark..... Historic NY Jun 2016 #80
I think that if they even TRIED to replace Trump at the Convention TrollBuster9090 Jun 2016 #2
I think you are right lancer78 Jun 2016 #4
I think the Kochs are 'sitting this one out'... Blanks Jun 2016 #36
If they replace trump GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #46
I have been saying this since all that talk started Cosmocat Jun 2016 #84
That's ridiculous. Regardless of what the republican establishment wants... qdouble Jun 2016 #3
That's the reailty. Even if they take it away from him, there would be enough of a slice of OnDoutside Jun 2016 #9
Agree to disagree JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #6
+1! Great point! eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #7
Imo, he will not be the nominee. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #16
I have thought the same thing for several weeks. pangaia Jun 2016 #31
Surprise! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #85
Doesn't matter all of those Senators and Members of the House JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #34
Nobody has to go after him, the media loves to show whatever bombastic thing he says that night. Rex Jun 2016 #8
I 100% agree! We are being stupid. WE WANT TRUMP! Logical Jun 2016 #14
Talkers said candidates need to define their opponent early, so people patricia92243 Jun 2016 #15
The GOP is between a rock and a hard place with Trump justiceischeap Jun 2016 #20
We will know they're crying uncle when they agree to Garland alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #28
They really can not replace him and they do not want karynnj Jun 2016 #22
That's a good point, but Hillary's campaign and her supporters are culpable, here WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jun 2016 #23
I believe this was planned all along. n/t djean111 Jun 2016 #25
How long would Sanders have waited, exactly? Orrex Jun 2016 #37
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #41
Golly! Orrex Jun 2016 #44
Oh the irony... GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #48
If you can't talk about the issues? SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #86
Well, it's been that way for the past 56 presidential elections Orrex Jun 2016 #93
She'd pat Ryan on the head, and then rip his heart out. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #27
I think defining him early as a fraud and dangerous is good. DCBob Jun 2016 #29
Looks like a win win to me leftynyc Jun 2016 #33
Think "Bernie Or Bust" is bad, imagine how many Trump voters won't show up if they try that. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #38
Now is the time to define Trump for the pathetic asshole that he is NewJeffCT Jun 2016 #40
I guess you missed yesterday's roll out of Hillary by the D big guns. stopbush Jun 2016 #42
That's good advice. George Eliot Jun 2016 #47
Good point. Looks like he's on a "somewhat dignified" leash now. But, hard Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2016 #51
Looks like he is off it now lancer78 Jun 2016 #63
Chump Change Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2016 #64
They certainly did make a deathrind Jun 2016 #55
No. If anything, it's been TOO LONG. NYC Liberal Jun 2016 #58
I disagree. Having Trump as a candidate is too dangerous. athena Jun 2016 #60
I think it's far from obvious that Cruz or Rubio would be better. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #67
Your numbers don't look right. athena Jun 2016 #69
Only one party has held the presidency three times in a row since the war. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #70
I would normally agree with you athena Jun 2016 #71
Nothing new here. SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #87
What are you doing on Democratic Underground athena Jun 2016 #88
His Republican opponents made the mistake of handling him with kid gloves. nyquil_man Jun 2016 #62
What are you talking about? He is the nominee BainsBane Jun 2016 #68
I think the OP is assuming there will be some kind of coup at the republican convention still_one Jun 2016 #79
There won't be a coup BainsBane Jun 2016 #89
I agree, he will be the nominee still_one Jun 2016 #94
this is all silliness -- Trump will be the nominee, whatever chatter there is to the contrary cloudythescribbler Jun 2016 #81
Hit him hard, early, often. TDale313 Jun 2016 #82
I see your point lancer78 Jun 2016 #91
I sure hope crap like this ends soon rurallib Jun 2016 #83
How is my post lancer78 Jun 2016 #90
Politics 101 - Attack early and define your opponent to the voters. nt TeamPooka Jun 2016 #92
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