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In reply to the discussion: If A Woman Has Problem Pregnancy Catholic Hospitals Will Just Let Her Die. [View all]mercuryblues
(16,346 posts)90. another one
They are needlessly putting a woman's life at risk. The longer a woman is pregnant with an unviable fetus the more likely she is to develop an infection that could kill her.
http://www.msmagazine.com/spring2011/treatmentdenied.asp
Kathleen Prieskorn gasped in shock as her medical nightmare began. Still reeling from the heartbreak of an earlier miscarriage, Prieskorn was three months pregnant and working as a waitress when she felt a twinge, felt a trickle down her leg and realized she was miscarrying again.
She rushed to her doctor's office, "where I learned my amniotic sac had torn," says Prieskorn, who lives with her husband in Manchester, N.H. "But the nearest hospital had recently merged with a Catholic hospitaland because my doctor could still detect a fetal heartbeat, he wasn't allowed to give me a uterine evacuation that would help me complete my miscarriage."
To get treatment, Prieskorn, who has no car, had to instead travel 80 miles to the nearest hospital that would perform the procedureexpensive to do in an ambulance, because she had no health insurance. Her doctor handed her $400 of his own cash and she bundled into the back of a cab.
"During that trip, which seemed endless, I was not only devastated, but terrified," Prieskorn remembers. "I knew that if there were complications I could lose my uterusand maybe even my life."
Ordeals like the one Prieskorn suffered are not isolated incidents: They could happen to a woman of any income level, religion or state now that Catholic institutions have become the largest not-for-profit source of health-care in the U.S., treating 1 in 6 hospital patients. And that's because Catholic hospitals are required to adhere to the Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Servicesarchconservative restrictions issued by the 258-member U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
Because of the directives, doctors and nurses at Catholic-affiliated facilities are not allowed to perform procedures that the Catholic Church deems "intrinsically immoral, such as abortion and direct sterilization." Those medical personnel also cannot give rape survivors drugs to prevent pregnancy unless there is "no evidence that conception has already occurred." The only birth control they can dispense is advice about "natural family planning" laborious daily charting of a woman's basal temperature and cervical mucus in order to abstain from sex when she is ovulatingwhich only 0.1 percent of women use.
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If A Woman Has Problem Pregnancy Catholic Hospitals Will Just Let Her Die. [View all]
TheMastersNemesis
Jun 2016
OP
"The church won't allow doctors to terminate ectopic pregnancies until a woman is in mortal danger"
MH1
Jun 2016
#12
The only people not taking this seriously are Church apologists who value their religion...
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2016
#59
According to the documents provided by the USCCB in addition to actual case studies,
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2016
#28
I think we all know Official Ethics rarely translate to Actual Practices.
BlancheSplanchnik
Jun 2016
#47
"proportionately serious" that's a problem, basically they won't terminate until the women's...
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2016
#71
Where does that say she wasn't excommunicated for authorizing a life saving procedure?
MH1
Jun 2016
#23
I guess you're the kind of person who focuses on one narrow point...
BlancheSplanchnik
Jun 2016
#110
So far your claim isn't holding up, no one on the thread can prove what you are claiming.
braddy
Jun 2016
#15
Well, that just isn't true, several links to several cases and a meta-analysis published in a...
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2016
#19
We have to assume it is a false claim, a fake claim of something that just isn't true, it didn't
braddy
Jun 2016
#31
Their experiences do not support the fake claim of the the thread, so your post doesn't make sense.
braddy
Jun 2016
#52
It hasn't been proved to be nonsense, where is your evidence for that?
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2016
#57
Where is your proof that this BS nonsense is factual? Here is your claim you are trying to make.
braddy
Jun 2016
#63
Honestly, I can't prove it, at least not in the United States, may be due to lack of reporting on...
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2016
#72
I know you can't prove it, it is a silly claim and a silly thread. You constantly posting to me is
braddy
Jun 2016
#74
Don't start lying about me, when you can prove the silly fake claim of the OP is true, then post it
braddy
Jun 2016
#95
The worst you can say about it is that its hyperbole, but it isn't silly..
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2016
#96
Evidently this childish repetitive posting is something you live for, how about quit pestering me
braddy
Jun 2016
#98
Who is be repetitious here? Instead of responding to the content of my posts, many of which are..
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2016
#99
LOL, evidently this is what you do for kicks, good luck with your fake claim of the OP.
braddy
Jun 2016
#100
I was stuck with a doctor with privileges at a catholic hospital Let me bleed for two days while
Person 2713
Jun 2016
#24
I almost bleed to death at a Catholic hospital in Greensboro, NC yrs ago
womanofthehills
Jun 2016
#85
Were you pregnant? Were you miscarrying but the ovum or fetus had not yet expelled?
Person 2713
Jun 2016
#106
Yeah, they like to send those orphaned boy babies to the Vatican for "special care."
valerief
Jun 2016
#37
Seriously now that I think about it wasn't the church in the orphan business at one time too?
Person 2713
Jun 2016
#41
you got a link?. Who has died in a USA hospital because treatment was withheld/refused?
Sunlei
Jun 2016
#51
Gee, why so much support for Catholic hospitals, which clearly deny needed care?
alarimer
Jun 2016
#53
Then that makes it more important to make sure these hospitals comply with....
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2016
#68
There's a post on this very thread of a DUer who was allowed to bleed for 2 days because of this...
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2016
#62
Actually, that is not true. The largest Catholic hospital chain even covers birth control
tonyt53
Jun 2016
#77
The OP is about treatment of problem pregnancies. Birth control is used to prevent pregnancy
Person 2713
Jun 2016
#107
So the people who are coming forward with their stories are making them up? n/t
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2016
#97
I think the issue is mostly about the five women who experience what they did in a relatively short.
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2016
#105
Oh please, that's bullshit, when policies are put in place that put real people in harm...
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2016
#102