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malaise

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23. He did not

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:57 AM

Jun 2016

he exposed his son's hatred of having his three year old son seeing two men kissing. In other words his son hated gays and had serious issues about others having equal rights.
The son was New York born and not a product of any of those ten countries- a New York home grown anti-gay murderer. Indeed he perpetrated the largest mass shooting in America.

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Anti-Gay hate crime. NOT Islamic terrorism [View all] philosslayer Jun 2016 OP

Why not both? MadBadger Jun 2016 #1

I agree, it is both still_one Jun 2016 #6

Link? At work, hard for me to search stuff 4139 Jun 2016 #2

Orlando Nightclub Shooting: Mass Casualties After Gunman Opens Fire in Gay Club csziggy Jun 2016 #20

Thank 4139 Jun 2016 #37

It is both. Fundamentalist religious had a big part in this still_one Jun 2016 #3

The two are likely not mutually exclusive. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #4

too early to say... JCMach1 Jun 2016 #5

I would hardly call the killer's father a neutral source of information. virgogal Jun 2016 #7

we simply do not know whether this was inspired in any way by Islamic terrorism cali Jun 2016 #8

Thank you cali. cwydro Jun 2016 #17

thanks. I am just sick with the grief of this. cali Jun 2016 #25

You're right. We don't know yet if his homophobia was fueled by religion. Iggo Jun 2016 #45

Seems like both to me. (eom) HassleCat Jun 2016 #9

"Didn't even happen" - families of 9/11 hijackers nt Dreamer Tatum Jun 2016 #10

If the perpetrator was Christian, we would call it Christian Terrorism. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #11

The media wouldn't. Politicians wouldn't. n/t JustinL Jun 2016 #39

Thoughts on the comments from the Stanford rapists parent? linuxman Jun 2016 #12

The father engaged in blaming the victim's own communituy for existing, and it's Islamic anti gay Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #13

He did not malaise Jun 2016 #23

Do you think you're convincing anyone? Dreamer Tatum Jun 2016 #29

That's saying 'he killed them because he saw them'. He's blaming the victims. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #33

You have never condemned radical Islam's hostility... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #14

That poster's excuse making after the NYE attacks in Germany were disgusting. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #15

The poster is here to sow discontent ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #16

You are so right, Rhody. I wish i had enough sense to just ignore him. cali Jun 2016 #26

I am happy that you don't because lesser minds fall for his toxic messages. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #35

THANK YOU uponit7771 Jun 2016 #18

Both. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #19

Trash the thread DashOneBravo Jun 2016 #21

Terrorism has a necessarily political end JackintheGreen Jun 2016 #22

If the goal was to scare LGBT people "back into the closet", then it would be a political goal. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #24

I didn't suggest is wasn't terrorism JackintheGreen Jun 2016 #30

I didn't get that from the post. Thanks for the update! NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #31

Not enough information is known at this time. Why is it necessary to rush to speculation ? Trust Buster Jun 2016 #27

We don't know this either! auntpurl Jun 2016 #28

How do you know it isn't both? leftofcool Jun 2016 #32

They are not mutually exclusive. It seems like both. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #34

Islam's holy texts... MellowDem Jun 2016 #36

Until we have information to the contrary, I think his fathers POV is the most valid one n/t Lucinda Jun 2016 #38

Correct. K&R Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #40

And here we go, people on the "Left" forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #41

Media is doing a real disservice by jumping to mcar Jun 2016 #42

I don't hate Islam or Muslims but it's utterly disingenuous to not recognize its role in this YoungDemCA Jun 2016 #43

Why not both? nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #44

Obviously religious terrorism Laha Jun 2016 #46