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Orrex

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18. Except that we have no gun control

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:23 PM

Jun 2016

Perhaps if we had actual gun control, you'd be in a position to declare that "gun control just isn't the answer." Instead we have a wide range of laws that have little impact on the proliferation of guns, while we have a multi-billion dollar gun lobby working 24/7 to increase their profits with the help of their eager propagandists in congress and elsewhere--even here on DU.

It would be terrific to see actual gun control, but thanks to those well-funded efforts, we see nothing of the sort.

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List of Major Gun Control Advocacy Groups. [View all] Gomez163 Jun 2016 OP

Thank you. calimary Jun 2016 #1

Florida bans guns in clubs/bars. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #2

Banning the AR-15 would have worked Gomez163 Jun 2016 #3

Like in France? Kang Colby Jun 2016 #5

Do you confiscate the millions out there now? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #7

I would offer a generous gun buyback program Gomez163 Jun 2016 #8

Cost many billions of dollars Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #11

There are 300 million guns in the US. Lets working on reducing that first. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #12

It will be more than a few Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #15

We need to get off the dime. Why isn't this a problem in other countries?? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #16

Does that include suicides Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #20

No. Gun murders. See? I'm two steps ahead of you. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #22

Source of that please as Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #27

https://www.unodc.org/ Gomez163 Jun 2016 #30

Its a big site, where is this study found Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #32

I got it from Twitter Gomez163 Jun 2016 #34

so you have not researched or read the study? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #36

Here you go. warning pdf Gomez163 Jun 2016 #38

That picture is not in there Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #43

You can do this too. Try this one Gomez163 Jun 2016 #44

Or here Gomez163 Jun 2016 #45

interesting Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #51

Just like the great success that prohibition was? Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #21

Gun control works in other countries. See below Gomez163 Jun 2016 #24

It works great in Chicago Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #26

Don't change the subject. Country by Country. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #28

So gun control works. Except when it doesn't. Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #29

Gun control has never been tried here like in other countries. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #31

different cultures for one Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #33

That doesn't explain the wide disparity. Nor is it something to tolerate. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #35

I am curious on how the study was done and Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #37

Not really. CT banned Assault Weapons, but the Lanza AR-15 was compliant aikoaiko Jun 2016 #39

Except that we have no gun control Orrex Jun 2016 #18

Yes those thousands of existing laws Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #23

Because people like you water them down. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #41

not really Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #46

I'm for what works. I'm for adopting what has worked in other countries. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #47

So what gun control laws Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #4

The one proposed in 2013 for starters. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #6

You mean confiscation Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #9

If it would have done "nothing" then why be against it? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #10

I have nothing against UBC Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #13

And he had an AR-15 Gomez163 Jun 2016 #14

Yes, a standard civilian model Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #17

If it can kill 50 and injure another 53 its too dangerous to be on the street. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #19

At least be consistent Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #25

Give me what Japan and the Uk have Gomez163 Jun 2016 #40

how do you confiscate the 300+ million weapons Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #48

Voluntary gun buyback. Then confiscate the stragglers after a deadline. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #49

so you would pay full market value for all weapons? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #52

I dont know how to price it. Smarter people than me can do that. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #53

You would have to do that to be legal Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #55

So..it isn't really voluntary. It's really confiscation. Nancyswidower Jun 2016 #54

Great ideas until legalities get involved Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #56

I was getting a meat ball sub. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #58

What kind of hand gun and rifle? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #59

Locally regulated. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #60

As it is now Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #61

By the sheriff. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #62

But the freak lived in a different county than where the attack occured Nancyswidower Jun 2016 #64

I'm kind of new to posting(lurked for yrs but....) so I tread lightly....but if Nancyswidower Jun 2016 #63

Probably would not have Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #65

Not probably...it wouldn't have. Nancyswidower Jun 2016 #66

It's the gun culture rockfordfile Jun 2016 #42

K&R etherealtruth Jun 2016 #50

Interesting that we can't even share a few links like these without the thread getting highjacked. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2016 #57

I want your Cubs to win this year. And I'm a Pirate fan. Go Cubs. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #68

The gun murder apologists will do anything to protect the precious SwankyXomb Jun 2016 #69

Thank you for starting this thread... CBHagman Jun 2016 #67