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uppityperson

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8. U.S. officials: No evidence of direct Islamic State link to Orlando shooting
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:53 PM
Jun 2016
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-islamic-state-eviden-idUSKCN0YY0Q2
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The FBI official cautioned, however, that proving the suspected link to radical Islamism required further investigation.

Three U.S. officials familiar with the investigation into the massacre said that no evidence had yet been found showing a direct link with Islamic State or any other militant group.

There is “no evidence yet that this was directed or connected to ISIS. So far as we know at this time, his first direct contact was a pledge of bayat (loyalty) he made during the massacre," said a U.S. counter-terrorism official, referring to a 911 call the suspect made on Sunday.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity.

A U.S. intelligence official said it was not unexpected that Islamic State would claim responsibility given that the group has been suffering serious losses of fighters and territory in Iraq and Syria. "The fact that a website connected to Daesh applauded it doesn't mean anything," said the U.S. intelligence official, using an Arabic language acronym for Islamic State. "They are losing on their home turf, and it's not surprising if they're looking for some kind of twisted victory."...
The father sounds like a wacko. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #1
Brian Williams left-of-center2012 Jun 2016 #2
Why? Igel Jun 2016 #3
WTF are you talking about ellenrr Jun 2016 #6
I'll second that question davidthegnome Jun 2016 #14
That kind of hatred is irrational and bred from ignorance. Rex Jun 2016 #4
As a lesbian, I don't know a single, solitary Aerows Jun 2016 #5
I think it was motivated by both homophobia and fundamentalism. It's not an either or deal nt LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #7
Islamic fundamentalism as well as the mainstream culture of ALL countries AntiBank Jun 2016 #9
Oke Doke - New Orleans Strong Jun 2016 #16
I detest all religion, but I am only dealing with Islam atm, as that was a principal factor here AntiBank Jun 2016 #17
AntiBank! New Orleans Strong Jun 2016 #19
here's a provocative statement: I think a LOT of "christians" are going to have little issue AntiBank Jun 2016 #21
Looking at you Dan Patrick! New Orleans Strong Jun 2016 #25
U.S. officials: No evidence of direct Islamic State link to Orlando shooting uppityperson Jun 2016 #8
Thank you dflprincess Jun 2016 #15
"They are losing on their home turf, and it's not surprising... goldent Jun 2016 #36
I find it perfectly believable. Besides, there can be more than one motive. It doesn't have to be TwilightZone Jun 2016 #10
The father also said it had nothing to do with religion. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #11
Until you've walked in our shoes... TrogL Jun 2016 #12
The father is offering excuses, he believes seeing that kiss to be righteous motivation for Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #13
yup... I find it hard to believe this wouldn't have happened if he hadn't seen that one kiss renate Jun 2016 #37
Listen, I agree, in some cases, that radical fundamentalism is the cause of crimes justiceischeap Jun 2016 #18
Is there evidence that he chose the location because it was a gay club? oberliner Jun 2016 #22
What does that matter? justiceischeap Jun 2016 #23
Just curious oberliner Jun 2016 #24
I'm curious about the target choice too. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #29
So I just checked out the area on Google street view justiceischeap Jun 2016 #27
But the guy drove all the way from Ft Pierce. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #31
Thank you! missingthebigdog Jun 2016 #33
I imagine his real motivation was hatred bhikkhu Jun 2016 #20
That anecdote is just a symptom of a larger disease ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #26
Murder generally is ridiculous ck4829 Jun 2016 #28
Seeing 2 people kiss motivates me to kiss the person I'm with. Funny how different brains work, eh? Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #30
Maybe he didn't have anyone to kiss and was fighting urges he had been taught were evil? Fumesucker Jun 2016 #34
He was angered by seeing two guys kiss... liberalmuse Jun 2016 #32
I think... Mike Nelson Jun 2016 #35
There is a need to spin this in a certain way as to maintain existing narratives. Jesus Malverde Jun 2016 #38
homophobia crosses religions, we have same kind of crazy with some christians and there are beachbum bob Jun 2016 #39
It's our way of not blaming Islam and deflect it towards our true enemy... ileus Jun 2016 #40
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