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In reply to the discussion: I think this stuff about seeing 2 guys kiss as a motivation is ridiculous [View all]uppityperson
(115,677 posts)8. U.S. officials: No evidence of direct Islamic State link to Orlando shooting
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-islamic-state-eviden-idUSKCN0YY0Q2
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The FBI official cautioned, however, that proving the suspected link to radical Islamism required further investigation.
Three U.S. officials familiar with the investigation into the massacre said that no evidence had yet been found showing a direct link with Islamic State or any other militant group.
There is no evidence yet that this was directed or connected to ISIS. So far as we know at this time, his first direct contact was a pledge of bayat (loyalty) he made during the massacre," said a U.S. counter-terrorism official, referring to a 911 call the suspect made on Sunday.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity.
A U.S. intelligence official said it was not unexpected that Islamic State would claim responsibility given that the group has been suffering serious losses of fighters and territory in Iraq and Syria. "The fact that a website connected to Daesh applauded it doesn't mean anything," said the U.S. intelligence official, using an Arabic language acronym for Islamic State. "They are losing on their home turf, and it's not surprising if they're looking for some kind of twisted victory."...
The FBI official cautioned, however, that proving the suspected link to radical Islamism required further investigation.
Three U.S. officials familiar with the investigation into the massacre said that no evidence had yet been found showing a direct link with Islamic State or any other militant group.
There is no evidence yet that this was directed or connected to ISIS. So far as we know at this time, his first direct contact was a pledge of bayat (loyalty) he made during the massacre," said a U.S. counter-terrorism official, referring to a 911 call the suspect made on Sunday.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity.
A U.S. intelligence official said it was not unexpected that Islamic State would claim responsibility given that the group has been suffering serious losses of fighters and territory in Iraq and Syria. "The fact that a website connected to Daesh applauded it doesn't mean anything," said the U.S. intelligence official, using an Arabic language acronym for Islamic State. "They are losing on their home turf, and it's not surprising if they're looking for some kind of twisted victory."...
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I think this stuff about seeing 2 guys kiss as a motivation is ridiculous [View all]
ellenrr
Jun 2016
OP
I think it was motivated by both homophobia and fundamentalism. It's not an either or deal nt
LostOne4Ever
Jun 2016
#7
I detest all religion, but I am only dealing with Islam atm, as that was a principal factor here
AntiBank
Jun 2016
#17
here's a provocative statement: I think a LOT of "christians" are going to have little issue
AntiBank
Jun 2016
#21
U.S. officials: No evidence of direct Islamic State link to Orlando shooting
uppityperson
Jun 2016
#8
I find it perfectly believable. Besides, there can be more than one motive. It doesn't have to be
TwilightZone
Jun 2016
#10
The father is offering excuses, he believes seeing that kiss to be righteous motivation for
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#13
yup... I find it hard to believe this wouldn't have happened if he hadn't seen that one kiss
renate
Jun 2016
#37
Listen, I agree, in some cases, that radical fundamentalism is the cause of crimes
justiceischeap
Jun 2016
#18
Seeing 2 people kiss motivates me to kiss the person I'm with. Funny how different brains work, eh?
Ned_Devine
Jun 2016
#30
Maybe he didn't have anyone to kiss and was fighting urges he had been taught were evil?
Fumesucker
Jun 2016
#34
There is a need to spin this in a certain way as to maintain existing narratives.
Jesus Malverde
Jun 2016
#38
homophobia crosses religions, we have same kind of crazy with some christians and there are
beachbum bob
Jun 2016
#39