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In reply to the discussion: If the Left does not wake up about Islam, Trump will win [View all]still_one
(98,883 posts)because of what happened in Orlando, and the implication that the "left" wing of the party would hurt the party unless they responded correctly.
I did this by pointing out what was known about the killer. He was American born, and a homophobic bigot. His call to 9/11 does not mean he was working with ISIS, though it was reported he had sympathies toward their agenda. He also had a history of violent and unstable behavior toward his ex-wife, and at least one co-worker had spoke to his anti-gay rants, and stalking with threats.
While most certainly there was a fundamentalist religious element that molded his hatred, and actions, those same characteristics are also prevalent among those associated with Operation Rescue, which included bombing of women's health clinics, mass shootings of Planned Parenthood facilities, and the killing of doctors that perform abortions.
Those who would vote for Trump because of his anti-Muslim and anti-immigration rants, were never going vote for any Democrat. For those who are independents, where this event would motivate them to vote for Trump, I would argue that it is highly unlikely that those independents would also have not voted for any Democrat.
If the FBI came out tomorrow, and said the killer acted on his own, I would be skeptical that it would change anyone's mind who said they would vote for Trump because of Orlando.
The comments coming out from many republicans are ignoring that the killer was an American, and a homophobic bigot, and focusing on his Islamic background. The only thing Democrats can do to counter that is speak to the facts