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179. Yeah...let's look at what the AWB did

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:04 PM

Jun 2016

removed the flash suppressor, bayonet lug, collapsible stock and outlawed grenade launchers....oh wait, it could still have one of those things as long as it didn't have the dreaded pistol grip.

Now, which one of those items made the rifle less deadly than the one used this past Saturday?

If it doesn't fire on full auto, it's not an assault weapon. That's why no military in the world uses a Bushmaster as its main battle rifle

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Fuck the NRA .... 50 dead. [View all] Botany Jun 2016 OP

ohmygod Evergreen Emerald Jun 2016 #1

No one can justify Assult weapons for civillians still_one Jun 2016 #2

And the club had "a good guy w/a gun"* working there too Botany Jun 2016 #6

It wasn't an assault rifle Press Virginia Jun 2016 #32

Posts like this Dem2 Jun 2016 #69

Do they tell you to learn the difference between Press Virginia Jun 2016 #95

If it is not one, why do so many gun losers slobber over the damn things. Ban em and gun profiteers. Hoyt Jun 2016 #104

Why do musicians "slobber" over the tools of their hobby? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #106

No one slobbers like a gun nut. I have a few guitars -- I can leave them at home and I don't obsess Hoyt Jun 2016 #114

oh the famous Bushmaster Man Card Press Virginia Jun 2016 #178

Nah Dem2 Jun 2016 #180

This message was self-deleted by its author Press Virginia Jun 2016 #181

So the obivious problem is all the people who didn't murder anyone on saturday Press Virginia Jun 2016 #182

Why do you live in fear of something that only looks like a military weapon? Bad Dog Jun 2016 #132

And all by itself???????????? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #149

What's amazing is that 50 people are dead and you won't deal with it. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #162

What's more amazing is that you seem to... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #167

You're talking absolute nonsense. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #168

I don't own a gun... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #169

You're a complete stranger to logic. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #170

re: "There's nothing more to be said on the matter." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #171

It's evidence based. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #173

As I said, have a nice day n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #184

It's evening over here. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #186

Rather have a nice evening discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #190

The UK is a great place. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #195

Have a great morning as well discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #202

I do have a profile you know. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #204

Now that you mention it.......... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #206

If you're having problems with my profile how about Shakespeare? Bad Dog Jun 2016 #205

re: I don't live in the pub. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #207

It would lose its novelty value after about a week. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #211

Something more to be said. Straw Man Jun 2016 #196

We weren't exactly awash with guns before laws were introduced post Dunlane. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #198

Look at the graph. Straw Man Jun 2016 #199

50 people murdered in Florida and you need to ask. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #200

Deflection. Straw Man Jun 2016 #201

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #203

How come the Homicide rate is higher in cities/states with the strictest gun control laws? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #189

No it didn't Press Virginia Jun 2016 #177

How many people die from being attacked by a musical instrument? madinmaryland Jun 2016 #147

Thousands of times Dem2 Jun 2016 #136

Yeah...let's look at what the AWB did Press Virginia Jun 2016 #179

I'm pretty sure if it killed 50 people gwheezie Jun 2016 #138

It's no more an assault rifle than the pistol the guy also used Press Virginia Jun 2016 #188

So please tell me the name of the weapon that babylonsister Jun 2016 #159

A bus....should we ban buses? The weapon didn't kill anyone. The man pulling the trigger did Press Virginia Jun 2016 #174

Agreed a million percent. whathehell Jun 2016 #49

Yes and fuck those malaise Jun 2016 #3

The NRA is evil and has blood on it's hands. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #4

So Long As They Have Money In Their Pockets SoCalMusicLover Jun 2016 #54

Amen to that! Protalker Jun 2016 #185

Deadliest shooting in American history malaise Jun 2016 #5

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #140

Huh? malaise Jun 2016 #141

Well said. DCBob Jun 2016 #7

Without the NRA, this wouldn't have happened. linuxman Jun 2016 #8

Yeah, France with its 1800 shooting deaths per year Station to Station Jun 2016 #11

Were the Paris killers Americans, and did they obtain their guns in America? Marengo Jun 2016 #12

It seems awfully coincidental, doesn't it? Dreamer Tatum Jun 2016 #13

Compels one to wonder why any laws exist at all if they don't matter muc LanternWaste Jun 2016 #213

No. Station to Station Jun 2016 #15

The point obviously evades you. Define "red flag". Marengo Jun 2016 #17

They will blame the gun no matter what Press Virginia Jun 2016 #34

But to try to defend the gun in any way right now is truly bizarre. Laha Jun 2016 #74

The gun is an inanimate object Press Virginia Jun 2016 #93

Except he can't pick up the car and swing it around and kill that many people that quickly. Laha Jun 2016 #110

If guns were only made for killing, millions of guns have failed to do their job Press Virginia Jun 2016 #112

I absolutely blame the man who pulled the trigger for the murder of these people Laha Jun 2016 #113

Again, you're blaming the inanimate object Press Virginia Jun 2016 #115

No, I blame the man who pulled the trigger. Laha Jun 2016 #117

The weapon didn't DO anything. The MAN did Press Virginia Jun 2016 #119

Thanks for asking instead of putting words into my mouth Laha Jun 2016 #120

Why do you think lawn darts are illegal now? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #192

Make sure you're first through the door when Press Virginia Jun 2016 #193

It's pretty twisted to be using times of express horror and sorrow passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #214

Oh yeah...the founders meant for the public to be disarmed and the government Press Virginia Jun 2016 #215

Legality. Straw Man Jun 2016 #197

Gun's don't kill people AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #78

No. The person pulling the trigger kills them Press Virginia Jun 2016 #101

It's only 33k if you count the people who kill themselves Press Virginia Jun 2016 #33

Why shouldn't people who kill themselves count? athena Jun 2016 #63

The Japanese kill themselves at higher rates than in the U.S. What makes it "easy" for them? Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #71

That's a cultural difference. athena Jun 2016 #121

so couldn't the american violence problem also be cultural? nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2016 #142

Did you bother to read my post, or did you just respond to the title? athena Jun 2016 #157

This!!!! A million times over. Laha Jun 2016 #79

It isn't a matter of if they should count. beevul Jun 2016 #82

They are both made easier by free and easy access to guns. athena Jun 2016 #122

None of which changes the fact... beevul Jun 2016 #124

Seriously? athena Jun 2016 #135

Would they be less dead if they killed themselves some other way? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #97

Well.. I didn't find another way to kill myself that would have been that easy and available. Laha Jun 2016 #116

did the lack of a gun solve the problem? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #118

You're not listening. athena Jun 2016 #123

If that were true, there wouldn't be 25,000 suicides each year where a gun wasn't used Press Virginia Jun 2016 #183

That 40,000 number could well be 30,000 if it weren't for guns. athena Jun 2016 #194

Only if you think the problem is the gun and Press Virginia Jun 2016 #209

And you know this better than someone who has been suicidal herself. athena Jun 2016 #210

Yeah, I know nothing about depression. I'll make sure my psychiatrist updates his diagnosis Press Virginia Jun 2016 #216

ONLY 33k? dgibby Jun 2016 #164

40k commit suicide each year Press Virginia Jun 2016 #172

It could be both and probably is. ananda Jun 2016 #62

Where did you get that 1,800 number? Orrex Jun 2016 #90

To some facts don't matter. Lint Head Jun 2016 #102

If you base that 1800 lancer78 Jun 2016 #126

Australia enacted one of the largest gun reforms ever nearly 2 decades ago — and gun deaths plummete Botany Jun 2016 #26

If those are the only deaths you care about, that's nice. linuxman Jun 2016 #36

On this day you post "We are becoming less violent as a whole worldwide." Botany Jun 2016 #41

You know what trends and averages are, right? linuxman Jun 2016 #50

Tell them I'm in the bathroom. He's coming. I'm gonna die': Terrified last text son sent to his mom Botany Jun 2016 #67

Call me when you want to have an actual conversation. linuxman Jun 2016 #72

Gun nuts Dem2 Jun 2016 #70

Sure you are. linuxman Jun 2016 #76

Wayne Lapierrer is a french name so it's still the NRA's fault ileus Jun 2016 #166

K&R! stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #9

Imagine if cars were around in 1776 Station to Station Jun 2016 #10

I can't believe the NRA defenders on DU NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #14

We need to bring back the ban on assault rifles elmac Jun 2016 #20

Our Ted DUgents can justify anything SwankyXomb Jun 2016 #39

Well, he was a member of one militia: ISIS Reter Jun 2016 #56

June 8 - ISIS Warned of Florida Attack jtx Jun 2016 #57

I can't believe the NRA defenders on DU AlbertCat Jun 2016 #88

gun humpers are the biggest cowards on the planet Skittles Jun 2016 #151

We're supposed to forget that part Bettie Jun 2016 #109

Clearly the fault of violent video games and not enough good guys with guns. Aka "buy more guns!" MillennialDem Jun 2016 #16

Orlando has been described as a big city controlled by a small Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #18

Guns are banned in clubs/bars in Florida. n/t Kang Colby Jun 2016 #19

Would not surprise me if our Florida legislators HockeyMom Jun 2016 #21

Carrying a gun while intoxicated.... getagrip_already Jun 2016 #75

Not sure what your point is, or if you have one other than that simple statement of fact. Martin Eden Jun 2016 #23

Why don't they have the same or higher level of homicides in Indiana? n/t Kang Colby Jun 2016 #28

Why do you think they don't? n/t Martin Eden Jun 2016 #42

Chicago is U.S. HQ for two large and violent gang networks. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #45

And Indiana is not. Martin Eden Jun 2016 #47

He had to pass a background check Press Virginia Jun 2016 #31

What kind of guns did he use and how many bullets in the clips? Martin Eden Jun 2016 #44

What laws would have saved their lives? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #58

Maybe the person selling him the stuff does. nt Gore1FL Jun 2016 #86

Only if the sale was illegal Press Virginia Jun 2016 #94

Your premise was that laws would do no good. Now you argue the laws don;t exists Gore1FL Jun 2016 #103

No. I asked what law would have saved the lives of those who were murdered Press Virginia Jun 2016 #107

You asked "Do you think a guy who murdered 50 people would care about those laws?" Gore1FL Jun 2016 #108

Okay...people who murder, don't care what laws are passed Press Virginia Jun 2016 #111

What type of guns did he use and how many rounds per clip? Martin Eden Jun 2016 #125

Kid at VPI used 2 pistols with 12 rounds each and multiple mags. Killed 23 people Press Virginia Jun 2016 #176

So, we're supposed to throw up our hands NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #148

the price of living in a free society Press Virginia Jun 2016 #175

He was a security guard with a state firearm license Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #73

So would banning alcohol TeddyR Jun 2016 #127

Not a fan of you but I agree, gun bans do nothing except prevent honest people from having guns. nt Logical Jun 2016 #25

My husband LittleGirl Jun 2016 #22

When the # 50 came on the t.v. I broke down for a minute or two Botany Jun 2016 #29

I am a mess LittleGirl Jun 2016 #65

This might help a little bit Botany Jun 2016 #66

Agreed... FUCK THE NRA davidthegnome Jun 2016 #24

What type of gun control do you propose TeddyR Jun 2016 #40

Assuming from your response... davidthegnome Jun 2016 #89

I personally think that if you want to stop TeddyR Jun 2016 #91

Why is the NRA more responsible than his religious beliefs? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #27

Because gunz... beevul Jun 2016 #80

oops... not supposed to say that here... nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2016 #143

The shooter was licensed Ms. Yertle Jun 2016 #30

Depends on where you work. Straw Man Jun 2016 #217

Fuck the hate and bigotry and fuck every last asshole who pushes it. onecaliberal Jun 2016 #35

Fuck the NRA and gun humpers. Nt NCTraveler Jun 2016 #37

I have no words for this sickness. smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #38

People actually valuing human lives more than their precious weaponry etherealtruth Jun 2016 #59

Or maybe they could value human life more than their preciious religion Fumesucker Jun 2016 #98

There are, but the consistent commanality is access to weaponry etherealtruth Jun 2016 #99

no it isn't; it's violence lovers and nutbaggery; lots of people have access to weapons. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2016 #144

k and r...nt Stuart G Jun 2016 #43

Fuck the shooter. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #46

Fuck the Republicans. kentuck Jun 2016 #191

The Republicans and the NRA and ALEC.or will not allow any bill to be passed rladdi Jun 2016 #48

Only our massive voting in November can change this situation. Democrats much rladdi Jun 2016 #51

The constant dog whistle drum beat attacking minorities maindawg Jun 2016 #52

It sounds terrible to say but craigmatic Jun 2016 #53

The NRA also claims objects such as cars are used to kill people... dubyadiprecession Jun 2016 #55

Fuck the shooter, I hope he rots in a special hell Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #60

This is a natural consequence of the NRA agenda. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #61

This freak was a Federaly background checked "security guard" for a Co. Nancyswidower Jun 2016 #83

Or the Democratic Party agenda? TeddyR Jun 2016 #129

Fuck Islamic extremism. nt MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #64

agreed. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2016 #145

And I weep for the families and friends--------------------- turbinetree Jun 2016 #68

I agree and to consevative religion rockfordfile Jun 2016 #77

Preach it my brother! ileus Jun 2016 #81

What would be the reason for the Terrorist designation? Nancyswidower Jun 2016 #137

No it's to be used against you for when the time comes to round the guns up. ileus Jun 2016 #153

So...for confiscation purposes...not for factual reasons. Got'cha Nancyswidower Jun 2016 #154

Duh!....of course. ileus Jun 2016 #158

repeal of 2nd amendment would result in a coast to coast AntiBank Jun 2016 #165

If only we had gun laws like France. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #84

Agree completely Angel Martin Jun 2016 #85

But according to the government oneshooter Jun 2016 #187

Islamic Militant - Focus on the Threat jtx Jun 2016 #87

This is heartbreaking. ciaobaby Jun 2016 #92

Trump wants an immediate moratorium TeddyR Jun 2016 #130

Fuck 'em jpak Jun 2016 #96

k&r... spanone Jun 2016 #100

@#$% the NRA. Scurrilous Jun 2016 #105

Don't forget... freebrew Jun 2016 #128

How are RW evangelists TeddyR Jun 2016 #131

IDK... freebrew Jun 2016 #133

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This message was self-deleted by its author DesertRat Jun 2016 #139

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nice try ...... Botany Jun 2016 #146

Who should we be more mad at ISIS or the NRA? craigmatic Jun 2016 #152

they both represent gun humping assholes Skittles Jun 2016 #155

Agree 100%. Fuck the NRA, it might have been a hunting club at one time but now Rex Jun 2016 #156

Kick sarcasmo Jun 2016 #160

Kick and agree. FUCK the NRA. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #161

K&R Fuck the NRA #BanAssultRiffles n/t FreeState Jun 2016 #163

This message was self-deleted by its author jtx Jun 2016 #208

The NRA is doing is job: branding tragedy as a profit mechanism... LanternWaste Jun 2016 #212