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In reply to the discussion: Fuck the NRA .... 50 dead. [View all]Straw Man
(6,958 posts)197. Legality.
Lawn darts are now illegal because they were created as a child's toy and they proved to be too dangerous for that population. A gun is not a child's toy.
Guns are deadly and some guns are far more deadly than others, and should not be available to a normal citizen to purchase. They should be reserved for war, or destroyed and not manufactured any more.
Despite what you may have been led to believe, AR15s are not "weapons of war." They have never been issued to any army because modern military long arms must be capable of full-auto or burst fire. It is the sine qua non.
There are less destructive guns that you gun enthusiasts and hunters can play with. There are less destructive guns that people who live on a farm or ranch can have for protection of livestock, or as you mentioned, to put down a suffering animal.
I can think of no gun more suited to protecting livestock from packs of coyotes than a semi-automatic centerfire rifle with a scope. Something like an AR15.
When angry people take a gun to a mass killing, they don't use the pistol, they use the semi-automatic and the gun that can take a large magazine of unending ammo.
Cho used pistols at Virginia Tech. Wong used pistols at Binghamton. Hasan used pistols at Fort Hood. The Navy Yard shooter used a pump action shotgun that didn't have a removable magazine. He killed twelve, and would have killed far more if he had attacked a crowded public area rather than an office building.
I have no problem with people having a gun if they have a legitimate reason for having one. But it does not need to be a semi-auto, or magazine capable.
Self-defense is always a legitimate reason, and the best weapon for self-defense is a magazine-capable semi-auto.
The fix for this is not technological. That's a red herring.
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If it is not one, why do so many gun losers slobber over the damn things. Ban em and gun profiteers.
Hoyt
Jun 2016
#104
No one slobbers like a gun nut. I have a few guitars -- I can leave them at home and I don't obsess
Hoyt
Jun 2016
#114
So the obivious problem is all the people who didn't murder anyone on saturday
Press Virginia
Jun 2016
#182
How come the Homicide rate is higher in cities/states with the strictest gun control laws?
Press Virginia
Jun 2016
#189
A bus....should we ban buses? The weapon didn't kill anyone. The man pulling the trigger did
Press Virginia
Jun 2016
#174
Except he can't pick up the car and swing it around and kill that many people that quickly.
Laha
Jun 2016
#110
If guns were only made for killing, millions of guns have failed to do their job
Press Virginia
Jun 2016
#112
Oh yeah...the founders meant for the public to be disarmed and the government
Press Virginia
Jun 2016
#215
The Japanese kill themselves at higher rates than in the U.S. What makes it "easy" for them?
Eleanors38
Jun 2016
#71
Well.. I didn't find another way to kill myself that would have been that easy and available.
Laha
Jun 2016
#116
If that were true, there wouldn't be 25,000 suicides each year where a gun wasn't used
Press Virginia
Jun 2016
#183
Yeah, I know nothing about depression. I'll make sure my psychiatrist updates his diagnosis
Press Virginia
Jun 2016
#216
Australia enacted one of the largest gun reforms ever nearly 2 decades ago — and gun deaths plummete
Botany
Jun 2016
#26
Tell them I'm in the bathroom. He's coming. I'm gonna die': Terrified last text son sent to his mom
Botany
Jun 2016
#67
Clearly the fault of violent video games and not enough good guys with guns. Aka "buy more guns!"
MillennialDem
Jun 2016
#16
Not sure what your point is, or if you have one other than that simple statement of fact.
Martin Eden
Jun 2016
#23
Your premise was that laws would do no good. Now you argue the laws don;t exists
Gore1FL
Jun 2016
#103
No. I asked what law would have saved the lives of those who were murdered
Press Virginia
Jun 2016
#107
You asked "Do you think a guy who murdered 50 people would care about those laws?"
Gore1FL
Jun 2016
#108
Kid at VPI used 2 pistols with 12 rounds each and multiple mags. Killed 23 people
Press Virginia
Jun 2016
#176
Not a fan of you but I agree, gun bans do nothing except prevent honest people from having guns. nt
Logical
Jun 2016
#25
no it isn't; it's violence lovers and nutbaggery; lots of people have access to weapons. nt
TheFrenchRazor
Jun 2016
#144