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First Speaker

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29. Acknowledging that America in 2016 is not Germany in 1933...
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 10:56 AM
Jun 2016

...I'm still appalled by how much *is* similar. Germany's defeat in World War One is an event of a totally different order than the USA's Mideast fiascoes--but still, the shadow of military disaster does darken our country. The Great Depression isn't comparable to the Great Recession, and we are slowly coming out of the latter--but many people don't believe this, and our middle class is hollowed out. Unscrupulous demagogues attacked every institution of Weimar, especially, of course, the Communists and Nazis. We have no comparable institution on the Left remotely like the Communist Party, and that's the biggest difference between the two countries. But years, decades, of the Fox "news" network? It's pure Goebbels, and I say this as one who once studied Nazi propaganda techniques in some detail. Their hatred of "liberals" is just as great as the Nazis' hatred of the Jews, and I do not say that lightly. And, to be fair(?)--Hitler was unique, sui generis. There never was, or shall be, anyone quite like him. Trump personally is more like McCarthy, a cheap demagogue/clown who's riding a wave of dissatisfaction and hate. But given all this, he could still do immense damage to America's liberal democracy. A Peron-style banana republic is certainly possible, if not full-blown Nazi tyranny. And that would be bad enough...

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Developing your concept: no_hypocrisy Jun 2016 #1
those partially responsible will always deny and shrink from cali Jun 2016 #2
people delude themselves into thinking "it can't happen here" because unblock Jun 2016 #3
When Trumps yells and foams at the mouth at his rallies C_U_L8R Jun 2016 #4
You reap what you sow maindawg Jun 2016 #5
Nope. Didn't see Hitler in shrub. cali Jun 2016 #6
You didn't see the similarity between the Reichstag Fire and 9/11? PADemD Jun 2016 #19
no. I didn't. cali Jun 2016 #25
I'm a slow reader. PADemD Jun 2016 #42
I see what you did there. Bucky Jun 2016 #31
Thank you mainstreetonce Jun 2016 #12
Not hyperbole at all, IMO. eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #7
Fun Fact: The Nazis weren't a perfect and precise bureaucratic machine. DetlefK Jun 2016 #8
that is absolutely correct. The Navy leadership was cali Jun 2016 #10
The Book bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #9
he keeps hitlers writings at his bedside, iirc. btw, he's already written his inaugural speech: Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #11
did he read the speeches before or after the raping, I wonder Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #13
I'd forgotten that repulsive nugget, Gabi. cali Jun 2016 #15
the wife raping is absolutely germane: Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #16
Yes. cali Jun 2016 #17
this came up first when I typed"trump hitler speeches" Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #18
oh lordy, that doofus at 1:20 on the video! - - - He makes stupid look bad Bucky Jun 2016 #34
yep, but I liked better his response at 2:38-3:03 when Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #38
To what should be horror to all of us, your analogy is wholly appropriate. Scuba Jun 2016 #14
Many people don't know Hitler was legally elected obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #20
what will his Reichstag Fire be? Reagan's was The October surprise Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #22
Probably something about Muslims obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #40
Comparing Trump to specific historical figures... gregcrawford Jun 2016 #21
couldn't agree more, but how is the current dem leadership economically any different? TPP says Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #23
They aren't any different... gregcrawford Jun 2016 #26
Dulles brothers: two fascist monsters, working both in front of and Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #30
Trump and the republican base are more nationalistic (as was Hitler) in economics, culture, military pampango Jun 2016 #27
the modern, third way, dem is almost indistinguishable from Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #32
A great book and a cautionary tale, I agree. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #24
This is so timely mainstreetonce Jun 2016 #28
Acknowledging that America in 2016 is not Germany in 1933... First Speaker Jun 2016 #29
From another thread: Live tweets from a Hitler-er-Trump Rally nolabear Jun 2016 #33
there are no words. cali Jun 2016 #35
I don't like the Hitler comparison, but I'm okay with calling Trump Mussoliniesque Bucky Jun 2016 #36
I think current Trump and Hitler in the twenties and early thirties cali Jun 2016 #37
if we could only be assured that this tailspin will continue on, resulting Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #39
I can't share this video enough.. Blanks Jun 2016 #41
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