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Uponthegears

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40. You mean

Wed Jun 15, 2016, 09:23 PM

Jun 2016

EXTREMELY RARE antique bolt actions.

The problem with a lot of gun "experts" is that they think they can scare off challenges by posting some irrelevant piece of trivia.

Next thing you know you'll be trying to educate us about "automatic" and "assault weapon" definitions.

Best you try that with someone else.

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And, once again, the party charges up the hill of the useless Assault Weapons Ban [View all] Recursion Jun 2016 OP

The discussion has to start somewhere... likesmountains 52 Jun 2016 #1

So why is it starting with a 20-year-old awful law? Recursion Jun 2016 #2

Also, the Assault weapon ban was basically on the honor system Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #5

Hopefully they will figure out he proper language... likesmountains 52 Jun 2016 #7

It's not a question of flawed implementation of the language it's fundamentally the wrong concept Recursion Jun 2016 #10

So, where do you recommend that the discussion starts? likesmountains 52 Jun 2016 #14

If we're focusing on the technology (which I think is wrong to begin with), a semi-auto ban Recursion Jun 2016 #16

You are correct. I've been tweaking a 'make heads explode' mini rant I post... fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #44

It's not the language. It's the focus on meaningless cosmetic features and model names. Adrahil Jun 2016 #17

But the cosmetic features are what drives... scscholar Jun 2016 #22

Wait, what? A collapsible stock, a barrel shroud, and bayonet mount 'drive people to do bad things'? X_Digger Jun 2016 #45

It should make sense. This does not. nt Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #48

Or . . . Uponthegears Jun 2016 #3

I would vote for that in a heartbeat. It also polls better than the AWB. Recursion Jun 2016 #4

Well there goes my 1926 bolt action Mosin Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #6

I can't have my Henry lever action rifle? Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #11

New Henry? Uponthegears Jun 2016 #54

.357 Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #57

I have no problem Uponthegears Jun 2016 #61

And I can't buy yard darts; what's your point? Recursion Jun 2016 #19

I do not remember a right to lawn darts? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #28

It's that long-ignored Amendment between VIII and X Recursion Jun 2016 #29

Well I remember a couple of amendments Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #32

Your Mosin Uponthegears Jun 2016 #49

The rifle accepts speed loading clips Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #50

Oh my Uponthegears Jun 2016 #55

To bad that is not what you proposed. Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #56

Oh I see Uponthegears Jun 2016 #58

Ah, good so all speed loading clips are good Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #60

Don't own a revolver, huh? Uponthegears Jun 2016 #62

If I get another weapon it will be a revolver. Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #64

Fair enough Uponthegears Jun 2016 #65

How you you design a magazine not to accept a speed loading device Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #8

This would ban antique bolt action rifles. NT Adrahil Jun 2016 #18

Yep Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #30

How many of those are manufactured nowadays? Recursion Jun 2016 #31

His proposal included possession. Adrahil Jun 2016 #34

You said possessed Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #35

I didn't say anything; I think this can only realistically happen at "next transfer" (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #36

My bad, another poster suggested this law Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #39

No problem; I did say I'd vote for it in the next post Recursion Jun 2016 #41

You mean Uponthegears Jun 2016 #40

Not rare at all Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #43

That outlaws my deer rifle. Brickbat Jun 2016 #47

OK, and? Recursion Jun 2016 #51

Once we get the momentum to actually do something, handguns, etc., can easily be added. Right now Hoyt Jun 2016 #9

The '94 ban caused the sales of military-style rifles to skyrocket Recursion Jun 2016 #13

Just ban semi-auto rifles with or without handgrips, foldable stocks, etc. Tell NRA and gunners they Hoyt Jun 2016 #26

Thank you! And that polls better than the AWB! Recursion Jun 2016 #27

OK it's a done deal, on to health care. Hoyt Jun 2016 #33

really DustyJoe Jun 2016 #59

Yes it is Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #66

Because gun owners are for stand your ground, lax laws, more gunz, do nothing, george zimmerman, Hoyt Jun 2016 #67

Yep Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #63

This might ironically be a good choice for incrementalism. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #12

Magazine size restrictions I'm fine with; it's the rest of the cruft that drives me insane Recursion Jun 2016 #15

agree with that. Adrahil Jun 2016 #20

So first TeddyR Jun 2016 #21

There are very large magazine for some pistols. He had a Glock with a 33 rd mag. Adrahil Jun 2016 #24

When Senator Begich voted against expanded background checks, I asked him a direct question: brooklynite Jun 2016 #23

Ironically, my alternative solution focuses more on background checks Recursion Jun 2016 #25

Both of those killers Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #37

And, as callous as this sounds, random mass shootings aren't the real problem Recursion Jun 2016 #38

We really do need to get the data right and shared Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #42

Yup! More bullshit grandstanding. OffWithTheirHeads Jun 2016 #46

Pistols were used at VPI Press Virginia Jun 2016 #52

Yup. The detachable magazine is all that matters for volume of fire Recursion Jun 2016 #53