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OffWithTheirHeads

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46. Yup! More bullshit grandstanding.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 09:31 PM
Jun 2016

A background check would be a start but if it doesn't apply to gun shows its just posturing.

An assault weapons ban? What's an assault weapon? Any semi automatic gun? Good luck with that! If you don't own a revolver you probably own a semi automatic gun. Any idea how many millions of these are in circulation? Let's talk AR15s. According to some anti gun sources like Nicole Sandler who does not, and never has owned a gun ( and I love Nicole but this sounds like the people who have never seen pornography but know it's bad). There are currently over 25 million AR15s currently in circulation. How are you going to fix that? Do you really think everyone with an AR is just going to turn it in?

Let me tell you about the AWB in California. Could you buy an AR in California? You bet cha. It couldn't have more than a ten round magazine and couldn't have an adjustable stock but it was the same gun. Just didn't look as scary. Grandstanding.

This did a lot to prevent NOTHING because I could drive to Arizona and buy a Magpull adjustable stock and Magpull 30 round magazines without showing so much as a drivers license.

So, let's get serious about gun control.. There should be universal background checks to buy a gun, end of subject. You should also have to take a class in what the consiquences of using that gun are. If you shoot somebody, this is what you will go through.

But... Nothing will happen because our politicians don't actually want to fix the problem, they just want to grandstand.

Sort of like the undocumented workers. How do you fix that? Arrest the people that hire them. Good luck with that.

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The discussion has to start somewhere... likesmountains 52 Jun 2016 #1
So why is it starting with a 20-year-old awful law? Recursion Jun 2016 #2
Also, the Assault weapon ban was basically on the honor system Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #5
Hopefully they will figure out he proper language... likesmountains 52 Jun 2016 #7
It's not a question of flawed implementation of the language it's fundamentally the wrong concept Recursion Jun 2016 #10
So, where do you recommend that the discussion starts? likesmountains 52 Jun 2016 #14
If we're focusing on the technology (which I think is wrong to begin with), a semi-auto ban Recursion Jun 2016 #16
You are correct. I've been tweaking a 'make heads explode' mini rant I post... fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #44
It's not the language. It's the focus on meaningless cosmetic features and model names. Adrahil Jun 2016 #17
But the cosmetic features are what drives... scscholar Jun 2016 #22
Wait, what? A collapsible stock, a barrel shroud, and bayonet mount 'drive people to do bad things'? X_Digger Jun 2016 #45
It should make sense. This does not. nt Mojorabbit Jun 2016 #48
Or . . . Uponthegears Jun 2016 #3
I would vote for that in a heartbeat. It also polls better than the AWB. Recursion Jun 2016 #4
Well there goes my 1926 bolt action Mosin Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #6
I can't have my Henry lever action rifle? Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #11
New Henry? Uponthegears Jun 2016 #54
.357 Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #57
I have no problem Uponthegears Jun 2016 #61
And I can't buy yard darts; what's your point? Recursion Jun 2016 #19
I do not remember a right to lawn darts? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #28
It's that long-ignored Amendment between VIII and X Recursion Jun 2016 #29
Well I remember a couple of amendments Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #32
Your Mosin Uponthegears Jun 2016 #49
The rifle accepts speed loading clips Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #50
Oh my Uponthegears Jun 2016 #55
To bad that is not what you proposed. Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #56
Oh I see Uponthegears Jun 2016 #58
Ah, good so all speed loading clips are good Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #60
Don't own a revolver, huh? Uponthegears Jun 2016 #62
If I get another weapon it will be a revolver. Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #64
Fair enough Uponthegears Jun 2016 #65
How you you design a magazine not to accept a speed loading device Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #8
This would ban antique bolt action rifles. NT Adrahil Jun 2016 #18
Yep Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #30
How many of those are manufactured nowadays? Recursion Jun 2016 #31
His proposal included possession. Adrahil Jun 2016 #34
You said possessed Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #35
I didn't say anything; I think this can only realistically happen at "next transfer" (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #36
My bad, another poster suggested this law Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #39
No problem; I did say I'd vote for it in the next post Recursion Jun 2016 #41
You mean Uponthegears Jun 2016 #40
Not rare at all Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #43
That outlaws my deer rifle. Brickbat Jun 2016 #47
OK, and? Recursion Jun 2016 #51
Once we get the momentum to actually do something, handguns, etc., can easily be added. Right now Hoyt Jun 2016 #9
The '94 ban caused the sales of military-style rifles to skyrocket Recursion Jun 2016 #13
Just ban semi-auto rifles with or without handgrips, foldable stocks, etc. Tell NRA and gunners they Hoyt Jun 2016 #26
Thank you! And that polls better than the AWB! Recursion Jun 2016 #27
OK it's a done deal, on to health care. Hoyt Jun 2016 #33
really DustyJoe Jun 2016 #59
Yes it is Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #66
Because gun owners are for stand your ground, lax laws, more gunz, do nothing, george zimmerman, Hoyt Jun 2016 #67
Yep Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #63
This might ironically be a good choice for incrementalism. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #12
Magazine size restrictions I'm fine with; it's the rest of the cruft that drives me insane Recursion Jun 2016 #15
agree with that. Adrahil Jun 2016 #20
So first TeddyR Jun 2016 #21
There are very large magazine for some pistols. He had a Glock with a 33 rd mag. Adrahil Jun 2016 #24
When Senator Begich voted against expanded background checks, I asked him a direct question: brooklynite Jun 2016 #23
Ironically, my alternative solution focuses more on background checks Recursion Jun 2016 #25
Both of those killers Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #37
And, as callous as this sounds, random mass shootings aren't the real problem Recursion Jun 2016 #38
We really do need to get the data right and shared Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #42
Yup! More bullshit grandstanding. OffWithTheirHeads Jun 2016 #46
Pistols were used at VPI Press Virginia Jun 2016 #52
Yup. The detachable magazine is all that matters for volume of fire Recursion Jun 2016 #53
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