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In reply to the discussion: Large capacity magazines [View all]Straw Man
(6,952 posts)59. Weak argument.
Of course it is. We still make it illegal.
By your argument, nothing should ever be illegal, because, duh, people break the law. But we do have laws.
By your argument, nothing should ever be illegal, because, duh, people break the law. But we do have laws.
Malum in se vs. malum prohibitum. The former deals with things that are abhorrent in and of themselves and never have a justifiable use: murder, rape, theft, etc. The latter deals with items or practices that had widespread social acceptance but have come to be seen as too problematic to be permitted.
Prohibitionist theory presupposes that society will benefit from a ban on these items or practices, and that this benefit outweighs the loss of individual freedom that the ban entails. A ban that doesn't succeed in removing the item from common use -- such as the Volstead Act, the War on Drugs, or a high-cap magazine ban -- fails on both accounts. It curtails individual freedom and doesn't cure the social ill, because, duh, the law is very easy to break and virtually impossible to enforce.
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I think the biggest problem is that the proposals are always reactionary and useless
Corporate666
Jun 2016
#56
FYI, there are billions of "large capacity" magazines already in circulation.
Just reading posts
Jun 2016
#2
KInd of hard to repair the levee when a lake has formed on top of it.
Just reading posts
Jun 2016
#8
There's also billions of grenades out there. We should just say fuck it and make them legal again.
Major Nikon
Jun 2016
#19
When have grenades been available for purchase on the open market for civilians in the modern era?
Marengo
Jun 2016
#44
One thing magazines currently in circulation probably number into the tens of millions. You can
doc03
Jun 2016
#3
Wouldn't argue that point, was at Cabelas a couple days ago. You have to draw a number and wait
doc03
Jun 2016
#10
You can also 3D print a machine gun receiver. We still do not allow their unfettered sale. NT
Adrahil
Jun 2016
#29
Note that some states currently limit magazine size and the "assault weapon ban"
PoliticAverse
Jun 2016
#5
Large cap mags have been restricted in the past, and currently are in several states.
jmg257
Jun 2016
#13
The way I read the relic mags would be say a 15rounder for M1 carbine...nice relic, but they make
jmg257
Jun 2016
#63
I wouldn't take chances...original $1500 S'G' with a pair of original 70yr old SG mags...
jmg257
Jun 2016
#65
You have a point. The thing about AR15 that makes them useful to mass shooters is their
aikoaiko
Jun 2016
#15
I'd much prefer an AR for accuracy and terminal ballistics than a shotgun in most situations.
aikoaiko
Jun 2016
#26
A knowledgable poster may be along shortly to inform you a Daisy BB rifle is more effective.
Marengo
Jun 2016
#45
An AR-15 is not going to penetrate the brick of my house, then go through by neighbors house
Travis_0004
Jun 2016
#55
"...make them harder to find - especially for people who are flaky outsiders in our society ..."
Angel Martin
Jun 2016
#35
Kind of. Normal capacity magazines were legal to sell if they were made prior to 1994.
Just reading posts
Jun 2016
#42