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jberryhill

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168. Then let me help you understand

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:52 PM

Jun 2016

Although give that you seem more interested in personal insults than rational argument...

"Perhaps the context was that Disney has had over 45 years overall to gauge the dangers of alligators..."

No, they have not been operating this hotel for over 45 years, and the theme park does not have this sort of beach facility. Additionally it has been only a matter of months since Disney opened bungalows on the water directly adjacent to the beach area of this hotel, and from which bungalows management has known the guests were feeding alligators and thus desensitizing them to humans.

Neither this waterfront resort nor the alligator feeding at the nearby bungalows have been going on for 45 years.

Now you can reach back into your bag of childish insults and "respond"

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Last year, this man specifically warned Disney about alligators after his son [View all] cali Jun 2016 OP

Kickin' it! In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #1

Disney is in deep shit. deservedly cali Jun 2016 #2

There will be a quick, generous, confidential settlement. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #4

Only if the family agrees. They may decide to make Disney pay in more ways than financially. KittyWampus Jun 2016 #12

If I was the parent, I'd insist on Disney correcting the Ilsa Jun 2016 #33

You can't just move the alligators to the Everglades. pangaia Jun 2016 #40

Fine. But there needs to be a remodel of Ilsa Jun 2016 #64

I agree... pangaia Jun 2016 #93

Apparently one Disney employee leftieNanner Jun 2016 #119

I have read that gators can crawl over fences. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #142

No need to read about it. Watch for yourself; A HERETIC I AM Jun 2016 #179

AAAAUUUGGGHHH!!! leftieNanner Jun 2016 #180

Have grass and rocks border the lake, because a white sand beach leading tblue37 Jun 2016 #141

Fine. But the Happiest Place On Earth needs an active hunting program. AngryAmish Jun 2016 #125

A good, maintained hurricane fence and some warning signs is all they need to do. bvar22 Jun 2016 #114

Yeah, at least a fence to discourage people from getting into the water. nt Ilsa Jun 2016 #116

This is Also What Happens When People are Poorly Paid McKim Jun 2016 #120

Yep, bingo laundry_queen Jun 2016 #122

To suggest that this manager Bluestar Jun 2016 #127

settlement complete with gag order and tk2kewl Jun 2016 #13

Thread winner. Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #21

Disney should be ashamed! In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #6

I cannot believe that anyone who understands the nature of gators Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #20

This is what I don't understand (and I confess I posted this on another thread yesterday) dflprincess Jun 2016 #134

I've stayed at this resort. Agschmid Jun 2016 #137

Because that is where they were at the time, because the resort encouraged families to come down to tblue37 Jun 2016 #143

For Coranado Springs that is not accurate. Agschmid Jun 2016 #167

"Those are resident pets" - actually they eat resident pets. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #3

On my visits to the South I learned to stay away from them. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #5

I'm guessing the person that called them "pets" wouldn't actually have tried to pet one. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #9

I bet that person who called them "pets" is hating themselves now. forgotmylogin Jun 2016 #7

Disney should have a full time gator patrol. The public pays big bucks to visit in the park safely. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #8

It's somewhat likely that they already do. Agschmid Jun 2016 #138

Then they need to do more. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #161

I would add cannabis_flower Jun 2016 #22

Amphibious WatchWhatISay Jun 2016 #39

respect Florida Wildlife ,,, will not cut it.. pangaia Jun 2016 #41

Actually, they will eat young'ins. forgotmylogin Jun 2016 #67

They'd have to fence off the whole lagoon and compound. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #124

So THIS guy says Corporate666 Jun 2016 #98

Maybe they were constantly warned about the gators laundry_queen Jun 2016 #123

the signs said "no swimming" not "stay out of water" magical thyme Jun 2016 #164

So the 'resident pets' weren't animatronic gators. Sorry for the dark humor KittyWampus Jun 2016 #10

me too. I'm flummoxed. This should never have happened. cali Jun 2016 #19

Exactly. The whole point of Disney is to have SAFE fun. Pretend risk. pnwmom Jun 2016 #29

Remember the film "Westworld"? That is what this reminds me of. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #145

Disney World property is approximately 40 square miles. woodsprite Jun 2016 #11

It sounds like a 10' perimeter should be established around any bodies of water. KittyWampus Jun 2016 #14

I think at the time they said they had a 'gator net' in the River Country area woodsprite Jun 2016 #15

It better be a big fence Baclava Jun 2016 #50

And here is a video of a cat fighting an alligator and winning :) Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #80

Good kitty! Stare em right in the eye! Baclava Jun 2016 #82

Cats don't mess around! Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #83

Mine would likely Aerows Jun 2016 #176

Holy crap these people are FOOLS, are you KIDDING ME? brett_jv Jun 2016 #181

I think that was a stray cat. nt Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #184

"No swimming" means what it says. It doesn't mean "don't even dip your toes pnwmom Jun 2016 #31

I hope people realize Disney and man are the invasive species in Florida. JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #16

My Orlando friend Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #17

Are you defending the gator responsible for the attack? LS_Editor Jun 2016 #35

Only if the gator doesen't vote for Trump. JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #44

Alligators do what alligators do. They've been that way for a million years. Throd Jun 2016 #62

omg.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #18

If it were my child who died, truebluegreen Jun 2016 #30

Agreed.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #70

Irrationality abounds Corporate666 Jun 2016 #108

Codswollop. truebluegreen Jun 2016 #118

You're right. It was bound to happen eventually. Mariana Jun 2016 #140

How about signs that warn alligators are present that may feed on small pets and babies magical thyme Jun 2016 #165

How about not 'inviting kids to the beach' when alligators may be in the water AT ALL? brett_jv Jun 2016 #182

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #130

"NO SWIMMING" I'm prettty sure most of us would agree means do not go in the water.... NoMoreRepugs Jun 2016 #23

They recently opened on-water bungalows from which guests have been FEEDING alligators jberryhill Jun 2016 #25

I don't understand your objection to the 1971 reference SpankMe Jun 2016 #34

Then let me help you understand jberryhill Jun 2016 #168

Who cares when the hotel opened? Old Crow Jun 2016 #135

It's pretty simple jberryhill Jun 2016 #136

The bungalos are at the Polynesian Resort, not The Grand Floridian resort. apnu Jun 2016 #170

An aerial shot is in the article I posted jberryhill Jun 2016 #171

I have been there. Stayed at the Poly, walked to the Grand for dinner. apnu Jun 2016 #173

The alligators don't have to walk jberryhill Jun 2016 #175

No, most of us do not agree. That's why in OTHER locales pnwmom Jun 2016 #36

It's Florida. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #24

So, you think Disney was correct in not telling the Bora Bora guests not to feed the alligators? jberryhill Jun 2016 #26

I'm not familiar with that situation. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #27

That's what was going on, management knew it, and didn't stop it jberryhill Jun 2016 #28

I've mostly stayed away from this news item cpwm17 Jun 2016 #32

Maybe they shouldn't have man-made lagoons where children belong. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2016 #47

That's irresponsible on Disney's part. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #65

They're putting in a fence now spinbaby Jun 2016 #115

When they send alligators to that beach, they aren't sending their best... jberryhill Jun 2016 #169

Self-deleted dupe. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #146

This woman says she took pictures of her own son wading in the lake tblue37 Jun 2016 #147

Floridian here, and that's true, but Disneys whole purpose is to create safe place lostnfound Jun 2016 #128

So this guy let his kid go into the water, past the signs that said no swimming liberal N proud Jun 2016 #37

wading is not swimming. cali Jun 2016 #42

Wading is in the water liberal N proud Jun 2016 #58

Umm.... Disney knew. Whiskeytide Jun 2016 #66

I always thought "No Swimming" meant stay out of the water PJMcK Jun 2016 #60

No Swimming means don't go in the water melman Jun 2016 #85

It was a "beach" Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2016 #52

You've been staunchly defending Disney, I don't get it..... steve2470 Jun 2016 #55

Parents need to be responsible for their children liberal N proud Jun 2016 #59

Haven't you read any of the posts above. mentalsolstice Jun 2016 #71

Some say? liberal N proud Jun 2016 #87

I have heard that witnesses.... mentalsolstice Jun 2016 #94

Fox "News" viewer? ( n) maddiemom Jun 2016 #131

There were no "watch for gator" signs for at the park d_legendary1 Jun 2016 #72

You mean like the parents of this boy who was't even in the water? kcr Jun 2016 #129

Sounds like you know a lot Corporate666 Jun 2016 #109

Proper signs = a few thousand dollars steve2470 Jun 2016 #110

Sounds like your wealth of inexperience is even greater previously demonstrated Corporate666 Jun 2016 #113

Ford figured likely deaths into its financial calculations when they decided not tblue37 Jun 2016 #148

When I was child in the '60s, alligators were considered an endangered species... 1monster Jun 2016 #38

Amen. bullsnarfle Jun 2016 #56

Those that feed the grizzly bears would probably become bear food liberal N proud Jun 2016 #57

That is a straw man. The argument being made is NOT that the tourists don't know that tblue37 Jun 2016 #149

Funny that you bring up chump. peace13 Jun 2016 #63

Actually, there are several companies Amaril Jun 2016 #91

Why not just play golf? Liberalagogo Jun 2016 #43

You got to play it as it lies Brother Buzz Jun 2016 #45

Or request a Mulligan. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #106

I have golfed at that course many times. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #79

In Florida, gated communities eject 'resident' gators when they reach 3' in length, including tail. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #46

Disney has a 4-foot limit, but still, it is probably impossible to find them all. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #150

Had an attack 30 years ago and 1 a couple months ago Omaha Steve Jun 2016 #48

Alligators don't make good pets. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #49

We had a pet cayman when I was a girl. His name was George, and he reached 2 feet before he died: tblue37 Jun 2016 #151

Here is a story from one of my websites about a young man tblue37 Jun 2016 #152

Disney F******D up, it's as clear as the nose on my face steve2470 Jun 2016 #51

Not quite so fast.. I want to know the corporate decision processes that went into this Fumesucker Jun 2016 #53

Actually you are correct, I think this was a conscious decision by Disney to NOT scare the guests... steve2470 Jun 2016 #54

I have been making the Pinto analogy, too. It seems germane. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #153

So many alligators in that area. Big ones, too. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #60

Not my mention is was at night. Feeding time, as I understand it. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2016 #74

Dusk, dawn, and night are big feeding times. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #76

I saw this the other day Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2016 #77

I use to do a lot of bass fishing in lakes around my area at night. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #81

Excellent warning sign. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #107

They're animals. They're wild. They go wherever the fuck they want. LeftyMom Jun 2016 #68

Um. bullshit. All Disney had to do was post "no swimming- alligators" cali Jun 2016 #73

exactly steve2470 Jun 2016 #75

The sign said no swimming. LeftyMom Jun 2016 #105

Unfortunately, this child didn't even have to in the water to be at risk. mentalsolstice Jun 2016 #117

I grew up watching "Wild Kingdom..." MrScorpio Jun 2016 #69

Maybe she watched and only paid attention to Marlin Perkins. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2016 #78

By hosting "beach parties" by this particular body of water, and having benches present Butterbean Jun 2016 #84

excellent post nt steve2470 Jun 2016 #86

Thank you. n/t Butterbean Jun 2016 #88

great post. Thank you Butterbean, for putting it so well. cali Jun 2016 #89

:) You're welcome. n/t Butterbean Jun 2016 #92

You are right, Butterbean gademocrat7 Jun 2016 #102

Not just a beach party, but BEACH NIGHT! Night time showings of kid movies tblue37 Jun 2016 #154

Good gracious. :( n/t Butterbean Jun 2016 #177

article from Omaha Nebraska newspaper about the stricken family steve2470 Jun 2016 #90

Everything needs to be hermetically sealed at Disney. Quantess Jun 2016 #95

how about signs warning that there are alligators in the lagoons? cali Jun 2016 #97

Seems simple. There aren't any, is what you are implying? Quantess Jun 2016 #99

No. There aren't. That has been widely reported. cali Jun 2016 #101

Well, there are now. The barn door has been locked now that the horse has left. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #155

I've seen the gators at Coronado Springs before. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #96

Thanks for this OP, Cali steve2470 Jun 2016 #100

They are going to be sued - and they should be. Chemisse Jun 2016 #103

No, Disney won't be sued shanti Jun 2016 #111

that depends on what the parents want to do. cali Jun 2016 #112

You're probably right. Chemisse Jun 2016 #126

They will settle big to avoid a lawsuit. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #156

More. proverbialwisdom Jun 2016 #104

That "Splash Mountain Alligator" is just a little guy--barely 3 to 4 feet, I think. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #178

I held a trade show there in 2009, and we were warned late one night about the gators. BadGimp Jun 2016 #121

You tell a parent there's gators in that water and kids WON'T be in it. Barack_America Jun 2016 #133

The whole reason people go to Disney instead of a state park or national forest pnwmom Jun 2016 #144

+1. So obvious. cali Jun 2016 #183

I was at DW last December Jubilant18 Jun 2016 #132

+ a brazillion. I am appalled by the posts sneering at the "stupidity" of out of staters tblue37 Jun 2016 #157

No one is lawyered up like the Mouse. McCamy Taylor Jun 2016 #139

With all this publicity they won't need to. Disney will offer a large settlement up front-- tblue37 Jun 2016 #158

Money may not be all that they want. n./t cali Jun 2016 #162

BIG LAWSUIT COMING !!! Hulk Jun 2016 #159

Gators, Florida. Common Sense Citrus Jun 2016 #160

Disney's gonna get sued so bad their lawyers are going to need lawyers... n/t leeroysphitz Jun 2016 #163

Yeah, see, the world is full of animals, they live here too. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #166

you see, this is Disney World. They didn't even post signs warning not to feed cali Jun 2016 #172

I don't think the animals who have lived there for millenia got the memo. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #174

Maybe Disney shouldn't have been threatening to confiscate cameras pnwmom Jun 2016 #186

If you want your child to be safe vacationing, Disney resorts have always been pnwmom Jun 2016 #185