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passiveporcupine

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15. Well, they were looking at terrorism

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:38 PM

Jun 2016

Mateen first came to the FBI’s attention in May 2013, after making a series of “boasts” to co-workers about his various ties to terrorist groups

FBI Director James Comey told reporters on Tuesday that Mateen had claimed to have “family connections to al Qaeda,” and that he was also “a member of Hezbollah.” (As Comey pointed out, these seemed to be contradictory claims since al Qaeda is a Sunni terrorist organization and Hezbollah is a Shiite organization.)

there is a lot of information about why the took him off the lists and what changed might be done in the future:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/14/fbi-tracked-orlando-killer-omar-mateen-and-came-up-empty.html

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Mateen Profile More Like "A Typical Mass Shooter" Rather Than "Individual Radicalized By ISIS" [View all] kpete Jun 2016 OP

I find the concept "Typical Mass Shooter" offrnsive. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #1

Well, MisterFred Jun 2016 #4

I am not a psychological denialist Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #65

That's not what the term means. yardwork Jun 2016 #67

She got that. MisterFred Jun 2016 #68

Typical - having the distinctive qualities of a particular type of person or thing. I know Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #69

Sorry, I misunderstood your earlier post. yardwork Jun 2016 #74

Are you new to America? IronLionZion Jun 2016 #5

Being deported back to Oklahoma would be a noghtmare. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #66

there is an ongoing attempt to make the murderer seem ordinary and not inspired MariaThinks Jun 2016 #6

Uh. MisterFred Jun 2016 #11

This vermin said he was inspired by ISIS King_David Jun 2016 #19

Ok, let's see. MisterFred Jun 2016 #35

The guy said he was ISIS King_David Jun 2016 #46

What cleanse? MisterFred Jun 2016 #72

i'm wasting my time - but ever wonder where his homophobia came from? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #80

Probably not ISIS. MisterFred Jun 2016 #82

his taliban supporting father is anti-gay. People who deliverably ignore facts are not stopping MariaThinks Jun 2016 #95

Strange. MisterFred Jun 2016 #97

Really--- trumad Jun 2016 #43

I'm not sure what you're reading exactly: King_David Jun 2016 #47

I'm noticing the same thing. Marr Jun 2016 #73

It shouldn't be, but in this country it is. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #29

So the last two times the FBI had him on their radar King_David Jun 2016 #2

Selection bias MisterFred Jun 2016 #3

that's fiction. the fbi made a blunder MariaThinks Jun 2016 #7

Exactly. CanSocDem Jun 2016 #63

apt description DustyJoe Jun 2016 #8

Well, they were looking at terrorism passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #15

Doesn't matter. People will still ignore the last 50 mass shooters IronLionZion Jun 2016 #9

Sadly true. nt MisterFred Jun 2016 #12

Yep. So true n/t Violet_Crumble Jun 2016 #24

Aka, people are stupid and can't chew bubblegum and walk at the same time. X_Digger Jun 2016 #10

Actually that fits a pidgeon hole pretty well. MisterFred Jun 2016 #14

I agree; it is amusing to see the contest treestar Jun 2016 #75

Except that his religion was already radical to begin with Albertoo Jun 2016 #13

Yes. MisterFred Jun 2016 #16

Can you name these Christian countries that outlaw Homosexuality? King_David Jun 2016 #21

Here's a list of majority Christian countries where homosexuality is criminalised... Violet_Crumble Jun 2016 #23

Wow, thank you. MisterFred Jun 2016 #39

The world has a long way to go King_David Jun 2016 #44

Yep. A long way to go. The full list is in the report I linked to... Violet_Crumble Jun 2016 #50

Uganda is 85% Christian. MisterFred Jun 2016 #36

Uganda I already mentioned, King_David Jun 2016 #49

My mistake. MisterFred Jun 2016 #70

Until the 2003 Lawrence v. Texas decision justiceischeap Jun 2016 #42

Yes but we are progressing here, King_David Jun 2016 #45

Yes, but. MisterFred Jun 2016 #71

Yes but justiceischeap Jun 2016 #76

Which Christian countries impose the death penalty for homosexuality? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #22

Other than Uganda, off and on? MisterFred Jun 2016 #38

Did the reponse change your mind any? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #55

I thought the answer was "zero" and it seems that I was correct. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #59

Doesn't excuse bigotry against Islam, sects of Hindu are just as vitriol. Any religion can be .... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #62

Wingerishly bigoted shit, all religions can be perverted to justify killing people uponit7771 Jun 2016 #54

unfortunately kpete Jun 2016 #60

True, but mainstream Islam currently takes the cake Albertoo Jun 2016 #84

This kind of bigoted shit does not belong here. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #78

Too cute: explain why Islam is not homophobic Albertoo Jun 2016 #85

I for one wish to welcome our Islamophobic trolls. hay rick Jun 2016 #17

Pretty much sums up DU right now. n/t Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #31

I disagree. It sums up some loud duers, but not the majority of us uppityperson Jun 2016 #79

Don't like the fact Islam is homophobic? Paint the messenger black. Albertoo Jun 2016 #86

Like I said, Islam bad. hay rick Jun 2016 #90

The Quran has some sexist, homophobic and violent passages. Do you condone them? Albertoo Jun 2016 #91

I don't read the Quran- or cherry-picked selections from the Quran. hay rick Jun 2016 #92

Except that the Quran is the perfect word of god and it says kill the infidels Albertoo Jun 2016 #93

And wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #18

This is like the guy who beats his wife and claims it is because she burnt the potatoes Midnight Writer Jun 2016 #20

Elementary school teachers say Mateen talked about violence & sex (obscenities) womanofthehills Jun 2016 #25

I have wondered before now if Ilsa Jun 2016 #83

CBS - women are now coming forward saying Mateen stalked them womanofthehills Jun 2016 #26

Phew! no need to examine any issues with Islam 6chars Jun 2016 #27

I know, right? That was a close one. Bensonhurst_braciole Jun 2016 #28

People who are Muslim ought to leave their religion for a whole host of reasons. MisterFred Jun 2016 #40

The first issue we can examine IronLionZion Jun 2016 #52

can take that comment many ways 6chars Jun 2016 #64

or bigotry, .... yeah... what relief uponit7771 Jun 2016 #57

Just a coincidence that he was raised by parents from a country that executes gay people (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #61

You want facts, you are an islamophobe, shame on you, 6chars ;) Albertoo Jun 2016 #87

Truth will out malaise Jun 2016 #30

I agree. He was an attention seeker. HepKitty416 Jun 2016 #33

Hero? Who is making this malaise Jun 2016 #48

Dammit! I wanna hate Muslims. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #32

No, no, no! You got the terminology wrong... Violet_Crumble Jun 2016 #34

I prefer to be brutally frank and straightforward. Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #37

I've see so many straight people recently portraying themselves as more knowledgeable King_David Jun 2016 #51

That sucks. I find all those kind of resident 'experts' ridiculous.... Violet_Crumble Jun 2016 #56

Agreed King_David Jun 2016 #58

These "experts" sure have done a great job so far. FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #41

Probably an NRA member also... ileus Jun 2016 #53

Cue angry rants by our islamophobic bigot members. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #77

Do you like a religion that calls for the stoning of adulterers? Albertoo Jun 2016 #94

Homophobia killed those poor people, not Islam. McCamy Taylor Jun 2016 #81

And you know Islam's homophobia had no bearing on the shooter's homophobia? Albertoo Jun 2016 #88

And Islam had no share in the actions of this "Typical Mass Shooter"? Albertoo Jun 2016 #89

One way OM was very much the jihadist Angel Martin Jun 2016 #96