General Discussion

Johnny2X2X

(24,356 posts)

17. Don't let the facts get in the way

Sun Jun 19, 2016, 11:04 AM

Jun 2016

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/hillary-clinton-was-liberal-hillary-clinton-is-liberal/

She's a liberal and has always been one.

"Clinton rates as a “hard core liberal” per the OnTheIssues.org scale. She is as liberal as Elizabeth Warren and barely more moderate than Bernie Sanders. And while Obama is also a “hard core liberal,” Clinton again was rated as more liberal than Obama."

More liberal than Obama as liberal Warren and a hair away from being as liberal as Bernie.

The idea that she's a moderate is going to work for her in the general election though, and it's also going to help her get a lot more accomplished as President than if she were viewed as what she is, a hardcore liberal.

Cannot edit, recommend, or reply in locked discussions

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

64 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Could Hillary pick Trump for VP in the hope for unity. [View all] Fuddnik Jun 2016 OP

Lol,what?? nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #1

.. avebury Jun 2016 #2

Nonsense... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #3

Wow. I can't believe I actually read that. Aristus Jun 2016 #4

My first thought was .... left-of-center2012 Jun 2016 #5

Yes, I am. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #7

LOL Johnny2X2X Jun 2016 #6

And, they called me nuts? Fuddnik Jun 2016 #9

Nixon was a liberal. Lochloosa Jun 2016 #10

hehehe yourpaljoey Jun 2016 #12

Don't let the facts get in the way Johnny2X2X Jun 2016 #17

If Goldwater only knew. -none Jun 2016 #19

The facts do not support your statement. Johnny2X2X Jun 2016 #20

Yes, cluster bombs, coups, fracking, free trade, are all such liberal policies. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #21

I think you do not understand the meaning of that word. -none Jun 2016 #33

She has a very SHORT record of votes, but a long record of public statements peacebird Jun 2016 #55

Senator Barack Obama jamese777 Jun 2016 #38

In today's politics Goldwater is a moderate at best jmowreader Jun 2016 #45

I guess no one changes from age 17 on, eh? Her first voting age (21) presidential race was McCarthy Hekate Jun 2016 #56

far far far from liberal, but you believe what you wish. Hope you get well soon swhisper1 Jun 2016 #23

Same Johnny2X2X Jun 2016 #25

Thanks Johnny. Too bad a few have their fingers in their ears. Hekate Jun 2016 #57

As the author of the OP you should wary of invoking the term 'challenged.' Scurrilous Jun 2016 #27

Hillary liberal? i guess in today's context rurallib Jun 2016 #22

You mean "the most NEO-liberal" Beowulf Jun 2016 #52

Embarrassingly silly op. cali Jun 2016 #8

.... FLPanhandle Jun 2016 #11

No more... pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #13

Awww c'mon, be a sport. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #18

That's the most deranged idea I've seen on DU yet today. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #14

Did that hurt to type? Solly Mack Jun 2016 #15

While Kerry approached McCain in 2004 regarding joining the ticket, Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #16

A McCain aide approached Kerry, who after considering it decided karynnj Jun 2016 #48

Two New Yorkers? How would that help defeat the ... uh ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #24

Makes no sense karynnj Jun 2016 #50

Sense? We're discussing Trump as Clinton's running mate. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #62

Nah libodem Jun 2016 #26

She might pick Jeb Bush Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #28

Almost as ridiculous as the OP wyldwolf Jun 2016 #31

Exactly what drugs are you taking? Vinca Jun 2016 #29

Could rocking horse people eat marshmallow pies? JHB Jun 2016 #30

Excellent idea! SheilaT Jun 2016 #32

Trump will be the nominee book_worm Jun 2016 #34

The American Conservative Union jamese777 Jun 2016 #35

Can't think of any worli where that would make any sense. liberal N proud Jun 2016 #36

No (nt) LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #37

You misspelled lunacy pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #39

+1 Person 2713 Jun 2016 #63

This is why we have the Ignore option. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #40

No 0rganism Jun 2016 #41

That would certainly keep her safe from assasination. usedtobedemgurl Jun 2016 #42

I'll have what you're smoking. WinkyDink Jun 2016 #43

Not me. It seems to generate nightmares. Hekate Jun 2016 #58

Of course not, that would be one of the worst ideas ever imo. Rex Jun 2016 #44

Night Train is a helluva wine, ain't it? jmowreader Jun 2016 #46

MD 20-20 to be specific! Fuddnik Jun 2016 #47

She'd be as likely as Bernie. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #49

My god, that's brilliant. He'd end up debating his own VP running mate Bucky Jun 2016 #51

Could a chicken in DeMoines give birth to the next antiChrist? McCamy Taylor Jun 2016 #53

Drunk-posting is never as cool as it seems when you're doing it.... Hekate Jun 2016 #54

Why would she pick trump when there is a BUSH available? (n/t) Wisc Progressive Jun 2016 #59

And she does proclaim to the world that Henry Kissinger is her mentor (n/t) Wisc Progressive Jun 2016 #60

Sigh, yawn!! Elmer, obviously, much like Drumpf cornball 24 Jun 2016 #61

Locking... one_voice Jun 2016 #64