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Photographer

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Tue Jun 21, 2016, 01:51 PM Jun 2016

Before European Christians Forced Gender Roles, Native Americans Acknowledged 5 Genders [View all]

Felt this might be appropriate to GD in light of the Orlando tragedy and the reprehensible reactions of some evangelical pastors toward the LGBTQ community.

http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/06/19/before-european-christians-forced-gender-roles-native-americans-acknowledged-5-genders/

It wasn’t until Europeans took over North America that natives adopted the ideas of gender roles. For Native Americans, there was no set of rules that men and women had to abide by in order to be considered a “normal” member of their tribe.

In fact, people who had both female and male characteristics were viewed as gifted by nature, and therefore, able to see both sides of everything. According to Indian Country Today, all native communities acknowledged the following gender roles: “Female, male, Two Spirit female, Two Spirit male and Transgendered.”

“Each tribe has their own specific term, but there was a need for a universal term that the general population could understand. The Navajo refer to Two Spirits as Nádleehí (one who is transformed), among the Lakota is Winkté (indicative of a male who has a compulsion to behave as a female), Niizh Manidoowag (two spirit) in Ojibwe, Hemaneh (half man, half woman) in Cheyenne, to name a few. As the purpose of “Two Spirit” is to be used as a universal term in the English language, it is not always translatable with the same meaning in Native languages. For example, in the Iroquois Cherokee language, there is no way to translate the term, but the Cherokee do have gender variance terms for ‘women who feel like men’ and vice versa.”

The “Two Spirit” culture of Native Americans was one of the first things that Europeans worked to destroy and cover up. According to Brits like George Catlin, the Two Spirit tradition had to be eradicated before it could go into history books. Catlin said the tradition:

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k and r with thanks for a most interesting and informative read. niyad Jun 2016 #1
I had read of this many years ago and was pleased to see it brought back up. Photographer Jun 2016 #7
I knew the thinking about 5 genders back when I was a teen. always made sense to me. niyad Jun 2016 #2
Thank you for this. peace13 Jun 2016 #3
There's many more than 5! maxsolomon Jun 2016 #4
Which is healthier, acceptance of individuals' variety of orientation, LWolf Jun 2016 #5
The people were valued... yellerpup Jun 2016 #11
most things fall somewhere on a spectrum, not just one end or the other passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #15
I've seen that for years. LWolf Jun 2016 #16
It also explains their behavior. roamer65 Jun 2016 #31
I first heard about "two spirit people" on local indie radio's "The Rainbow Minute" underpants Jun 2016 #6
It's normal behaviour. maindawg Jun 2016 #8
Squ*w and brave? geardaddy Jun 2016 #13
This is fascinating and so life-affirming AllyCat Jun 2016 #9
Small nitpick. MisterFred Jun 2016 #10
Thank you a la izquierda Jun 2016 #32
+1 geardaddy Jun 2016 #33
i learned about this in art school. mopinko Jun 2016 #12
I remember the character of Little Horse in "Little Big Man". Aristus Jun 2016 #14
"Don't take Bob Loblaw Jun 2016 #19
"He was a Bob Loblaw Jun 2016 #20
This article is filled with inaccuracies oberliner Jun 2016 #17
Hey, it's a single page internet piece not a term paper or Doctoral thesis Photographer Jun 2016 #21
Fair enough oberliner Jun 2016 #22
I don't believe the article claimed "all Native Americans." Photographer Jun 2016 #23
Yes, it does oberliner Jun 2016 #25
One should read the book ----------------------- turbinetree Jun 2016 #18
Will look for this. AllyCat Jun 2016 #24
This book is right to the point-------------- turbinetree Jun 2016 #26
your library should have a copy, or be able to get it through inter-library loan. niyad Jun 2016 #29
I agree with you. that one, and zinn's. but, of course, we cannot possibly learn the niyad Jun 2016 #30
Correct---------------------- turbinetree Jun 2016 #36
in one section of her book, she talks about how the catholic priests destroyed all niyad Jun 2016 #38
Yep------------------the priests out in region of California----------where really something else turbinetree Jun 2016 #40
Thanks. geardaddy Jun 2016 #34
Great-------------------I hope you enjoy the history like I do turbinetree Jun 2016 #37
Yet Europeans went back and forth on the Trans question One_Life_To_Give Jun 2016 #27
Good stuff, thanks for posting rufus dog Jun 2016 #28
Native Hawaiian and Polynesian culture yuiyoshida Jun 2016 #35
two-spirit niyad Jun 2016 #39
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