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Behind the Aegis

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21. Brava!
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 12:35 AM
Jun 2016

She did a fantastic job. I find this paragraph the most salient:

Unfortunately, many people have also declared that Mateen was clearly a “closet homosexual”, and that his shooting was fuelled by psychotic self-hatred and mental illness. Comments sections are teeming with announcements like, “I called it!!”, “that was obvious”, “he’s clearly mentally ill” and “the biggest homophobes are always closet gays”.


It has been that attitude which has been most prevalent and infuriating. It is made worse by GLBT people who promote it or make excuses for it. Then again, I am not surprised because one can always find someone in an affected group who is willing to promote any argument, Fox sure did:



The person they interview, Guy Benson, who is gay (and only watches Fox news, by his own admission), "confirms" that gay journalists are biased and nothing more than activists, particularly Anderson Cooper. "See! See! We have a GAY person who agrees with us and tells the "truth"! See! I knew it. I knew I was right that gay journalists are biased activists!!"



Something else which definitely should be highlighted:

Secondly, let’s turn to sexuality; and, in particular, the depressingly common trope that “the biggest homophobes are always closet gays.” Let’s be perfectly clear: homophobia is not a gay problem. While some LGBT people who are struggling with their identities certainly exhibit internalised homophobia (and transphobia), homophobia is a widespread, institutional problem most often perpetuated by straight people.


Know what, I am going to say it again (OK, cut and paste it again):

Secondly, let’s turn to sexuality; and, in particular, the depressingly common trope that “the biggest homophobes are always closet gays.” Let’s be perfectly clear: homophobia is not a gay problem. While some LGBT people who are struggling with their identities certainly exhibit internalised homophobia (and transphobia), homophobia is a widespread, institutional problem most often perpetuated by straight people.


There! Made it a bit more readable. It pisses me off some are trying to play the LGBT community off of the Muslim community, mainly the right, and it is failing, of course; but what is worse, other than tripe I have already discussed and this author discussed, are those who are "concerned" about this incident and it doesn't have jack to with Islam, Muslims (well, in some cases it does), and certainly not the LGBT community. Once again, demonstrating, the LGBT are a disposable group, unless it fits the narrative someone wants, and if it doesn't, then by G-d, they will make it fit, by hook or by crook!

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Recommended. This type of blaming is much too simple. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #1
The idea that self-loathing was at the core of Mateen's violence is NOT homophobic! markpkessinger Jun 2016 #5
I was not addressing the motivation for the violence. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #30
He clearly had mental problems. They will manifest themselves in whatever the person pursues. spud_demon Jun 2016 #2
Has anyone stepped forward to claim that they had a sexual relationship with him? -n/t lapfog_1 Jun 2016 #3
Is having had a sexual relationship with another man a requirement of being gay? markpkessinger Jun 2016 #7
no lapfog_1 Jun 2016 #10
Yes; today on Univision BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #23
The question was has someone claiming a relationship stepped forward BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #24
Perhaps so, and perhaps this is an elaborate concoction . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Jun 2016 #31
Yes vdogg Jun 2016 #27
THANK YOU!!! This has been driving me up the wall all week. LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #4
This isn't "blaming the victims" . . . markpkessinger Jun 2016 #8
What this is about is combating a homophobic meme that all homophobes are secretly gay LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #13
Where did I or anyone suggest that "alll homophobes are secretly gay?" n/t markpkessinger Jun 2016 #14
Where did I say that you suggested it? LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #17
The assertion that all homophobes are secretly gay has always annoyed me too. Chemisse Jun 2016 #20
Once again demonstrating why you are an excellent ally! Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #22
Yes, it was a product of homophobia and heterosexism . . . markpkessinger Jun 2016 #15
On all of that, we can agree. nt LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #18
DU is full of people with bias against both (deleted) and (deleted) along with strong bias in favor Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #6
This is no different than any other violent event. Takket Jun 2016 #11
Well said, although I think your faith in the FBI to provide an objective . . . markpkessinger Jun 2016 #16
My response to this thread . . . markpkessinger Jun 2016 #12
People are trying to examine reasons why someone would kill a lot of people IronLionZion Jun 2016 #19
Brava! Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #21
It never fails as a dismissive distancing tactic, Dalziel3979 Jun 2016 #25
Men become violent for being "turned down" often My Good Babushka Jun 2016 #26
... vdogg Jun 2016 #28
... LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #29
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