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seabeckind

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93. Some of it comes across as unfair.

Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:01 AM

Jun 2016

Before the change bashing for bashing sake seemed to be acceptable or at least a blind eye.

Now suggesting that an bias is implied is met with a reverse attack of some sort. A response to that, no matter how carefully worded is sometimes alerted.

Catch the wrong jury and your continued input, no matter how useful, is lost forever.

OTOH, I've seen historical instances in real life where that was a good thing. Sometimes forcing the rebel out of the rigid work environment started a whole new industry.

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I think the new rules will have unintended consequences... [View all] kentuck Jun 2016 OP

I think you're right. So far, so good, kentuck. eom BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #1

Not only are you correct SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #53

I don't think you'll see many alerts at all yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #109

I don't know about that. Yesterday, I participated on no less than three juries. BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #111

Are you kidding? whopis01 Jun 2016 #123

Lol. I have been on 3 but have no idea what became of them yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #124

Really? ProfessorGAC Jun 2016 #125

So have I Coolest Ranger Jun 2016 #133

I think you are correct, kentuck. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #2

Alerted! Crunchy Frog Jun 2016 #3

I like the new system. Rex Jun 2016 #4

So what's the new system, I have had time to pay attention. lonestarnot Jun 2016 #77

Pledge twice turn to the left and roll a 20d Rex Jun 2016 #80

You're begging for it mister. seabeckind Jun 2016 #96

Principal's office should be a tip off, but you never know. merrily Jun 2016 #103

Principal Skinner's office? HubertHeaver Jun 2016 #126

shrimp and peanut battle puffy socks Jun 2016 #128

Ha! Amaril Jun 2016 #132

Holy crap! I don't believe in spanking! lonestarnot Jun 2016 #108

It may also discourage debate. seabeckind Jun 2016 #5

there's always Discussionist for those who favor everything goes nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #10

Ah, actually everything doesn't go. seabeckind Jun 2016 #12

I hate that phrase ("Anything that doesn't kill you makes you stronger...") Moonwalk Jun 2016 #31

Well said!! missingthebigdog Jun 2016 #36

Actually I see it as totally the opposite seabeckind Jun 2016 #48

It's not a phrase. It's a quote from Nietzsche. REP Jun 2016 #50

I did the google machine and Nietzsche was just having us on seabeckind Jun 2016 #59

Yeah, best not to quote Nietzsche when you haven't read him. REP Jun 2016 #60

Didn't know I was. My bad. seabeckind Jun 2016 #63

What is DI? AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #70

It's a web site called Discussionist. lovemydog Jun 2016 #83

Oh ok. I know discussionist. I just didn't realize DI was short for that. Thank you AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #88

Actually DI is not everything goes, the cons over there are as thin skinned as Trump. nt Rex Jun 2016 #18

This site isn't for "opposing sides". You can always do that on some other website. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #26

Agree!!! K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2016 #43

You don't welcome constructive advice? seabeckind Jun 2016 #49

There are plenty of other sites that will fill your need. trumad Jun 2016 #90

Yeah but I like this one. seabeckind Jun 2016 #92

Well then quit moaning about how the place is set up. trumad Jun 2016 #94

Oops, mother in law hand seabeckind Jun 2016 #97

So it's a cheer leading site? ozone_man Jun 2016 #51

Perhaps you need to reread the new ToS. I'll help you with a link. BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #57

Which one also had to agree to before posting after the update was made. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #58

That's 100% true, TZ. eom BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #64

It's a fine line. ozone_man Jun 2016 #62

Some of it comes across as unfair. seabeckind Jun 2016 #93

It is getting us back to the purpose The Green Manalishi Jun 2016 #134

There are other sites you can go to with less optimism for Hillary leftofcool Jun 2016 #116

lolololol obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #38

I hear you, seabeckind. PoliticalMalcontent Jun 2016 #46

I've noticed that we need to be more careful of the eggshells. seabeckind Jun 2016 #55

Resistance is futile. ozone_man Jun 2016 #66

What I have found is that you talk about most anything. It's really HOW you say it. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #74

This. Got a warning for saying I agree with Bernie on superdelegates scscholar Jun 2016 #65

What is a "warning"? JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #86

It's not a formal process seabeckind Jun 2016 #91

It won't discourage debate because the button pusher is as much on trail.... Moonwalk Jun 2016 #68

Some percentage of the DU population isn't here for debate or new information... TipTok Jun 2016 #84

If debate can be civil, it should be welcomed anywhere liberal N proud Jun 2016 #102

Agree. seabeckind Jun 2016 #104

do you have a twin? snooper2 Jun 2016 #110

That's my biggest complaint too Victor_c3 Jun 2016 #112

more likely intended, rather than unintended. virtualobserver Jun 2016 #6

On which note, is it me, or are jury results not reported back to jurors anymore? villager Jun 2016 #7

Yup.... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #8

Huh. Any thought on why? villager Jun 2016 #9

The Admins think that the result notices are disruptive and drama-creating petronius Jun 2016 #11

Thanks. So I guess people with 0-7 verdicts "agin' 'em," who get the time outs... villager Jun 2016 #16

Ive posted jury results before awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #22

Shoot wryter2000 Jun 2016 #24

I think that would be very hard to do since you don't kno what forum/group it was posted in, nor hlthe2b Jun 2016 #29

Actually quite easy to track unc70 Jun 2016 #45

I'd also like to see where I came out LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #44

I suspect the issue is that sometimes a juror response was far more ugly than the post in question. HuckleB Jun 2016 #129

Yes, there are workarounds, but especially with these more fine-tuned iterations of voting.... villager Jun 2016 #136

I liked seeing the results, too, so I miss that. nt babylonsister Jun 2016 #56

Me too zipplewrath Jun 2016 #118

Me Three, Sis! ProfessorGAC Jun 2016 #127

Because people kept posting the results leading to more meta discussion? n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #13

True. There was a lot of "I was Juror #3!" posting going on... villager Jun 2016 #14

The why is in an ATA thread Yonnie3 Jun 2016 #21

One feature that I think might help seabeckind Jun 2016 #15

Interesting. A "re-think/cool-down" clause, eh? villager Jun 2016 #17

No I hadn't seabeckind Jun 2016 #19

I gave it a shot. seabeckind Jun 2016 #25

When they transitioned from DU2 to early DU3 BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #41

I think I had read that yes, that is the case Wednesdays Jun 2016 #32

I would like to know what we're supposed to do babylonsister Jun 2016 #135

There is a huge opening for Trump concern trolls though. Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #20

Some folks have their sensitivity turned to 11... TipTok Jun 2016 #85

Just voicing my opinion on Trump trolls. Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #99

That's not very friendly... TipTok Jun 2016 #100

You seem upset and touchy about something Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #101

A part of your response could be taken differently. seabeckind Jun 2016 #105

Of course the original response to me wasn't, I guess. Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #106

I'll leave it at that. n/t seabeckind Jun 2016 #107

Remember that bit about high sensitivity? TipTok Jun 2016 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author TipTok Jun 2016 #113

Yup wryter2000 Jun 2016 #23

I hope so. Duval Jun 2016 #27

You're just seeing that now? Cary Jun 2016 #28

I still say we should have the right to complain about Dem politicians without worry that vkkv Jun 2016 #30

Most Republican trolls that come here don't promote Republicans either. Their aim... Moonwalk Jun 2016 #34

Well, tbh, there were a lot of recent posts Wednesdays Jun 2016 #35

Really? "a lot of rerecent posts"?? I'm here all of the time since I work out of my house and I have vkkv Jun 2016 #37

We'll see after the general zipplewrath Jun 2016 #119

Lots of new members join the morning after a mass shooting IronLionZion Jun 2016 #33

Ahem... Bashing anonymous members... vkkv Jun 2016 #39

Good! IronLionZion Jun 2016 #40

Maybe. They may also turn DU into an echo chamber where important truths are muzzled because Gene Debs Jun 2016 #42

There are other sites to post on. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #82

That's a given zipplewrath Jun 2016 #120

It"s Too Bad That We Weren't Able To Get Rid Of Those Trolls.... global1 Jun 2016 #47

I am pretty tired of the bullies who answer your comment demigoddess Jun 2016 #52

i disagree SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2016 #75

Alert junkies seem to be working overtime Warpy Jun 2016 #54

Nope they're still here. nt retrowire Jun 2016 #61

I agree PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #69

.. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2016 #67

so how about un-banning those banned from the Hillary Clinton group? RussBLib Jun 2016 #71

And the trolls who came here to divide Democrats against each applegrove Jun 2016 #72

There is one section that I disagree with... kentuck Jun 2016 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author shanti Jun 2016 #78

Right, so I am not allowed to say a la izquierda Jun 2016 #89

I applaud the new rules. They will effectively kill the martyrdom drama jack_krass Jun 2016 #76

I think they should make one small modification with the jury notification. kentuck Jun 2016 #79

Remember how many jury notifications were being re-posted verbatim in threads? emulatorloo Jun 2016 #81

So, make a rule against it pintobean Jun 2016 #87

I now receive a slightly higher percentage each time someone reads one of my posts Orrex Jun 2016 #95

Your painting "Museum for the Blind" is brilliant. Kurovski Jun 2016 #117

Yes, it is indeed quite brilliant! Orrex Jun 2016 #121

I hope it got rid of all the pro-Putin and pro-China shills. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #98

Yeah... disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #115

And? MynameisBlarney Jun 2016 #122

One change I would like is........... mrmpa Jun 2016 #130

Too many rules maindawg Jun 2016 #131