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141. Actually it was Rep Katherine Clark's idea a week ago and she asked John Lewis if he would lead it.

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 05:38 AM

Jun 2016

https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2016/06/22/rep-clark-joins-house-democrat-sit

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Crediting white men with the work of minorities and women [View all] La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 OP

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Stop what? La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #4

That's the one following around sheshe JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #9

Junior was back for another visit? sheshe2 Jun 2016 #26

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Lol La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #12

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Lol La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #18

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... pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #21

I'm guessing "Name Removed" was the same person kentauros Jun 2016 #58

Plus overt racism and misogyny pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #59

As it turns out, it *was* the one downthread. kentauros Jun 2016 #61

I needed this the other day. we can do it Jun 2016 #220

Wow. sufrommich Jun 2016 #13

Cray cray La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #14

He's very angry JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #16

Did I miss something? sheshe2 Jun 2016 #23

The one you asked about last night. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2016 #27

Busy guy~ sheshe2 Jun 2016 #29

You missed a very angry racist who didn't care for sufrommich Jun 2016 #28

Sounds like the 3 post wonder that has been following me. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #32

Interesting that he's chosen you and Lioness to spew his rage at. sufrommich Jun 2016 #39

I sure hope he didn't post pictures this time. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #46

Isn't it just? La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #56

That guy showed up again JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #80

I have every confidence in the world... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #92

Bernie gave you the courage to say that! CreekDog Jun 2016 #111

Lol. Hi!!! La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #118

Raising hand Pacifist Patriot Jun 2016 #2

.... La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #8

I've read that people tend to ascribe a male gender to gender-neutral names, sarae Jun 2016 #60

Nah. Social Justice work done by minorities in the civil rights movement ehrnst Jun 2016 #82

Sorry, I don't think I was clear in my last post. sarae Jun 2016 #107

Sorry! ehrnst Jun 2016 #143

I am often presumed to be a man Skittles Jun 2016 #70

Skittles is the name of my female cat... so naturally I presumed you were a cat! hahaha... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #202

Skittles was my male 25 pound solid bundle of feline love Skittles Jun 2016 #227

Too funny!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #230

get that a lot myself. mopinko Jun 2016 #75

LOL! Just wait ... Now that you self-disclosed ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #90

As well as BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #154

And, overly sensitive, when you point the change out! 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #161

Look at my avatar. Aerows Jun 2016 #108

Well, avatar-based gender judgement goes both ways Scootaloo Jun 2016 #113

Touché :) n/t Aerows Jun 2016 #139

And I'm guilty again. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #196

LOL! Pacifist Patriot Jun 2016 #159

I haven't thought much about it awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #194

Well, now we have that all cleared up :) Aerows Jun 2016 #205

Thanks awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #210

Well, it *is* a sexy avatar, Aerows. Maybe that's why? BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #203

You know just what to say to a girl Aerows Jun 2016 #204

people assume I'm a woman for some reason geek tragedy Jun 2016 #156

I self-declared in my BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #162

sadly, you probably get treated better because they think you're a man geek tragedy Jun 2016 #169

LOL - I'd never thought about that. BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #172

Believe it or not, it's happened to me at the DU, too. Quantess Jun 2016 #164

Maybe the same 2 who took me for a male. Hortensis Jun 2016 #206

Yeah spray glittery gifs and lace Quantess Jun 2016 #208

Yep. Saw that too. Sickening. nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #3

I'm not sickened because I genuinely believe that no one is doing this intentionally La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #6

Crick and Watson's dismissal of Rosalind Franklin's contributions come to mind. arcane1 Jun 2016 #5

Yup La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #7

That is exactly what I thought of, too. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #109

What are you talking about? Who is giving undue credit to white men, and where? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #10

Somebody mentioned Bernie Sanders showing up to support Rep. Lewis WolverineDG Jun 2016 #15

Didn't say support at all. Which would be perfectly appropriate La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #19

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Thanks. I think it's great that Senator Sanders and so many others are supporting this. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #22

It wasn't that the Senator was supporting the action LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #25

I did notice that. And, whether his supporters like it or not, he isn't exactly the Squinch Jun 2016 #33

He is less bad on gun control than people like Murphy. Of course I'm still disappointed he went JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #86

No one is disparaging "support." But there have been claims that white men ehrnst Jun 2016 #85

Thanks. I haven't seen anything like that in these pages. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2016 #95

Search for "Sanders effect" (nt) ehrnst Jun 2016 #144

More accurately, a post was crediting Sanders for starting this "movement" LanternWaste Jun 2016 #198

I hope you don't mind this input GaYellowDawg Jun 2016 #24

Thank you so much for saying that La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #30

I like to think that I am pretty aware of my privilege, and that I am very willing to Squinch Jun 2016 #37

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #44

Some people can be dismissed outright. arcane1 Jun 2016 #47

This guy is obsessed with me. Obsessed. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #54

So it would seem. Your post hit a nerve :) arcane1 Jun 2016 #66

A while ago I hit a nerve. Now this might just be bad habit. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #67

Hmmm ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #31

What are you pissed about now? Prism Jun 2016 #34

lol. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #36

Are you about drama or are you about justice? Prism Jun 2016 #71

LOL ... He mad! 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #91

So mad and so I must take his nonsense seriously La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #116

Actually, no Prism Jun 2016 #183

Okay Bored. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #199

Oh, I was just mentioning Prism Jun 2016 #200

That is a stupid rebuttal; again, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #201

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I could have sworn I saw LLP comment on Orlando ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #209

i wrote a giant OP about why i didn't comment. something hit too close to home La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #211

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Ah, now I see what you were talking about. Number23 Jun 2016 #228

i am gay and brown. my brother is gay and brown. my best friend is gay and brown La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #223

It's sad. BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #166

Absolutely. I too believe that. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #179

+1 melman Jun 2016 #52

I know better Prism Jun 2016 #74

Back in the early 60s, a textbook for high school students came out Warpy Jun 2016 #35

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lolz obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #45

. demmiblue Jun 2016 #51

Do you think white males gave us a damned thing? Warpy Jun 2016 #53

+11 (nt) ehrnst Jun 2016 #87

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #97

racist troll much? johnp3907 Jun 2016 #98

Damn, I miss all the good stuff. Warpy Jun 2016 #105

I went to school in the 40s and 50s and it was always Madame Curie in the text book. 1939 Jun 2016 #64

I got out of high school in the 60s and our textbooks gave her full credit Warpy Jun 2016 #68

That Islamic fundamentalism 1939 Jun 2016 #94

Yeah, the Caliphate destroyed the Crusades Warpy Jun 2016 #104

A very good book 1939 Jun 2016 #140

Good point about Muslim academia awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #197

Even today many women writers obscure their first names in order to hide their gender. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #110

Great minds ... eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #168

Examples of writers ... BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #167

so very, very true niyad Jun 2016 #193

Kick Hekate Jun 2016 #38

K&R betsuni Jun 2016 #40

I appreciate this op bravenak Jun 2016 #42

Thanks hon. A lot of positive posts but some of the usual La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #49

My favorite are the, "What are you on about now?" posts. As if this is a piffle. It isn't. Thanks Squinch Jun 2016 #63

Or attributing anger to me or implying I made it up La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #65

Yep. Squinch Jun 2016 #69

assigning negative mercuryblues Jun 2016 #89

Chuck a rock at a pack of dogs ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #93

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OT but you know where I'm going to go with this JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #151

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #160

They just can't help themselves. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so incredibly stupid and Number23 Jun 2016 #106

Thanks much! I appreciate it! La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #124

They get excited by posts like this and just can't help signing up bravenak Jun 2016 #83

Oh some of them have been here a while La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #117

Oh yeah. bravenak Jun 2016 #133

This. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2016 #88

THANK YOU, PRI obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #43

... La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #50

K & R! sarae Jun 2016 #48

k&r Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #55

K&R! DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #57

Thank you ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #62

And how many times have we seen a woman being BLAMED for what is a matter of course for white men? beastie boy Jun 2016 #72

especially for being agentic (aggressive, ambitious, ruthless). we hate the same traits in women La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #125

God forbid!... beastie boy Jun 2016 #138

women get blamed for what their husbands do, either for being a Lady MacBeth or an 'enabler' nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #157

Today's Example Night Watchman Jun 2016 #73

There are not enough... SaschaHM Jun 2016 #100

Rosalind Franklin The Second Stone Jun 2016 #76

And Sybil Ludington obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #84

As a white woman raised in poverty with minorities (POC)... ALBliberal Jun 2016 #77

Thank you for the correcting lecture ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #112

and this has what to do with what i said? La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #126

I felt your post aimed to stir up a discussion of why a white man could not ALBliberal Jun 2016 #155

Pri's OP was about a black male Civil Rights icon & his white female colleague leading that action obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #171

Maybe more clarity on her part is needed? ALBliberal Jun 2016 #176

I was plenty clear. Many other people got it. A small minority chose to misconstrue it La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #188

The OP is about the exclusion and erasure of minorities and women Haveadream Jun 2016 #177

It still worked to somewhat alienate. Certainly didn't feel inclusive ALBliberal Jun 2016 #178

Feeling excluded and alienated feels extremely bad Haveadream Jun 2016 #182

I was raised with minorities and have witnessed their struggles ALBliberal Jun 2016 #184

As Hillary says Haveadream Jun 2016 #190

She is wise. ALBliberal Jun 2016 #195

Lol. You need to re read my post. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #187

K Person 2713 Jun 2016 #128

Thank you. John Lewis, part of the establishment he may be ehrnst Jun 2016 #78

Yes. I seem to remember him being thrown under the bus during the primary for being establishment. Squinch Jun 2016 #132

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2016 #147

That's the default type of people IronLionZion Jun 2016 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #99

Let's not leave out "Columbusing" as well MrScorpio Jun 2016 #81

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2016 #96

"Why I can't stand white belly dancers". Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #152

And no one has mentioned the Cotton Gin? happyslug Jun 2016 #102

I could note, literally, hundreds of examples like that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #114

Rock and roll... eom rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #136

Thanks for that background. BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #170

Careful! You'll get called more stupid, nasty insults from miserable, nasty people! Number23 Jun 2016 #103

Indeed. And not just from the long term trolls. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #120

Bernie Sanders is Jewish and part of a minority oppressed group nt riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #115

Yes, and this detracts from what I said how? La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #119

You seem to be lumping Bernie in with amorphous "white men " riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #121

Yes and he should still not be credited with what he did not do La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #122

Ok riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #123

We give Bernie only what he earned. By merit. His votes against the Brady bill, and his msanthrope Jun 2016 #142

Because Bernie is not even strong on gun control La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #150

This is an unprecedented action. riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #153

The murders of 49 mostly young hispanic gay men changed the dynamic obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #174

If Bernie didn't do it, then we have to thank establishment democrats La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #185

It's called 49 dead gay brown people La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #186

The murders of 49 mostly young hispanic gay men was the catalyst obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #173

+1 jack_krass Jun 2016 #231

Thank you. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2016 #148

For christ sakes.... davidn3600 Jun 2016 #127

people giving credit where is due is an issue of fairness. people don't react well to unfairness La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #129

Good answer Person 2713 Jun 2016 #130

Thanks! I appreciate it! La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #135

This is the work of John Lewis. John Lewis is the one who has inspired people to this action. Squinch Jun 2016 #131

So all white people should just sit home not agree with him or disagree davidn3600 Jun 2016 #134

That's completely not at all what I said or suggested La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #137

They all know that isn't what you said. They have to pretend that's what you said so that they Squinch Jun 2016 #217

i completely agree. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #218

Not what was said at all. People giving credit where credit isn't due is the issue. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2016 #149

Pri's OP said nothing at all like that obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #175

Some people will deliberately misconstrue things to fit their narrative that all forms of prejudice La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #189

No, not all white people. I'm a white person. Only the ones who want to say that someone other Squinch Jun 2016 #215

Actually it was Rep Katherine Clark's idea a week ago and she asked John Lewis if he would lead it. seaglass Jun 2016 #141

As a white person I agree that this happens Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #145

Poorer whites are demonized by the elite. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #146

even happens to Hillary geek tragedy Jun 2016 #158

It's called whitesplaining, and how anyone could do it to John Lewis is beyond me. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2016 #165

Yup La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #180

I may have responded to one BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #163

What is particularly glaring Haveadream Jun 2016 #181

k+r Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #191

No one credited Bernie for the sit-in. *yawn* harun Jun 2016 #212

none so blind... La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #213

Democrats are labeled spineless for good reason. Bernie showed some in the Primaries, harun Jun 2016 #216

John Lewis has been showing his spine for a VERY VERY long time. Running for president La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #219

Can you link to some of the comments that unfairly credit white men? totodeinhere Jun 2016 #221

no, i wont because it will get this entire thread deleted La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #222

If there are concrete verifiable examples of this why would the truth be deleted? totodeinhere Jun 2016 #229

As a Gay white male, I am very happy to kick & Recommend! William769 Jun 2016 #224

... La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #225

Yes it does have a long history. lovemydog Jun 2016 #226