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etherealtruth

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33. Conservative dem

Wed Dec 28, 2011, 11:09 AM

Dec 2011

The UP is a very unique place ... they are truly inclined to vote for the person vs the party and are attracted to more socially conservative people. There has also been a swing right in current years

I never forget Stupak's position on abortion (my original post points out that I abhorred it) ... now we have Banishek (same position on abortion), but he votes with the republicans essentially 100% of the time (in contrast to Stupak who voted with the dem's ~90%)

What I see is no change on the issues I hold nearest and dearest (choice for women) ... and a swing to the right on all other positions.

As I recall the Democratic candidate for that seat was very anti-choice as well.

Its a net loss for me. There wasn't a pro-choice candidate ... and we lost all the things we agree with

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Something you need to know about Ben Nelson [View all] housewolf Dec 2011 OP

With you 100%. elleng Dec 2011 #1

Don't you mean 82% ? B Calm Dec 2011 #21

Exon, Zorinsky and Kerrey were elected to a number of terms hfojvt Dec 2011 #2

Well if the rumors are right, they've still got the old Kerrey... nt TheWraith Dec 2011 #5

actually about Kerrey hfojvt Dec 2011 #12

Kerry was actually a bit better dsc Dec 2011 #46

Lawrence said he called Bob Kerry today housewolf Dec 2011 #6

He's perennially thinking about running frazzled Dec 2011 #8

I hope the Democrats have someone ready to step up BlueToTheBone Dec 2011 #3

Kicked and recommended. TheWraith Dec 2011 #4

Thank you for that housewolf Dec 2011 #10

And I'd rather have 12 Lincoln Chaffees or Jim Jeffords than 1 Ben Nelson. PassingFair Dec 2011 #30

Elizabeth Warren would win handily in Nebraska MannyGoldstein Dec 2011 #15

Keep telling yourself that if you like, but you're wrong. TheWraith Dec 2011 #17

You just definitively redefined the word Dewey Finn Dec 2011 #20

You are woefully incorrect in that assessment. MineralMan Dec 2011 #34

I seriously doubt that Warren could win in Nebraska proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #41

You are a Kansan. Who are democratic players in your state that can run a winning race? bluestate10 Dec 2011 #51

Not many. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #52

He also happened to be the ONLY Democrat to sign Grover's No Taxes Pledge. Bandit Dec 2011 #49

I'm getting fed up with the 'they're all the same' meme. Who does it serve? freshwest Dec 2011 #7

I'm tired of it, too housewolf Dec 2011 #11

And orchestrated by the corporate media and swallowed whole. freshwest Dec 2011 #13

He wasn't going to win. We would lose the seat even if he didn't retire. LiberalAndProud Dec 2011 #9

66% support from a red state is all I need to know that he is not a real dem! Logical Dec 2011 #14

So you'd rather have a "real Repub" in the seat? housewolf Dec 2011 #16

Ben Nelson, is not who I want in office. And his statement about cooperation is a joke..... Logical Dec 2011 #27

Your response is all I need to know that you have a (fortunately) unique take on being "logical". Dewey Finn Dec 2011 #18

By your logic, you rule out ANY Democrat possible ever being both a "real" karynnj Dec 2011 #37

Want me to send you a list of things Nelson fought against? Then you can decide? Logical Dec 2011 #38

I was not speaking of Nelson per se, but re-read the op karynnj Dec 2011 #47

But let's not forget he was elected to represent the people, NOT the Democratic party proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #42

I agree. He was elected to represent the Red state of Nebraska. Which he did! Logical Dec 2011 #44

And if he hadn't represented Nebraska, he wouldn't have been re-elected. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #48

I agree with you 100%. But it still does not make him a Dem. At all. Logical Dec 2011 #50

yeah. it's the conservative voters that I hate RainDog Dec 2011 #19

I'm with you housewolf. joshcryer Dec 2011 #22

i absolutely could not stand him CreekDog Dec 2011 #23

K & R ellisonz Dec 2011 #24

Well said. Betty Karlson Dec 2011 #25

I can't believe ANY state is still red Tsiyu Dec 2011 #26

I hear you housewolf etherealtruth Dec 2011 #28

Yeah, well maybe the experience with "the craziest of right wing nuts" will cause blow-back. PassingFair Dec 2011 #29

I don't know etherealtruth Dec 2011 #31

What positions does Banishek hold that Stupak didn't? PassingFair Dec 2011 #32

Conservative dem etherealtruth Dec 2011 #33

You can work towards blow-back and a stealth pro-choice candidate. PassingFair Dec 2011 #35

I'm not making excuses ... etherealtruth Dec 2011 #36

He supported a Constitutional amendment to oppose marriage equality Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #39

Same thing can be said about Dems in other states too. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #40

He opposes the most fundamental human rights lunatica Dec 2011 #43

IF a Republican takes his seat??? progressoid Dec 2011 #45