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baldguy

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24. The issue is guns. Weapons of mass murder - in the hands of demonstrably irresponsible people.

Reply to Marengo (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:54 PM

Jun 2016

You think being murderously irresponsible is an inalienable right.

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The party that takes away your rights is concerned about you losing your right to guns... [View all] liberal N proud Jun 2016 OP

Guns are the tools of our oppression & subjugation. baldguy Jun 2016 #1

The same is true of the party which traditionally defended pipoman Jun 2016 #2

And what rights would that be? liberal N proud Jun 2016 #3

The right to due process. hack89 Jun 2016 #4

As far as I know, we still have due process liberal N proud Jun 2016 #5

In the context of the terror watch lists and the ability to buy guns hack89 Jun 2016 #6

Does the no fly list bother you, did it bother you before guns were mentioned? XRubicon Jun 2016 #21

Just like you, I was appalled at the Patriot Act hack89 Jun 2016 #25

So the no fly list needs to go too right? XRubicon Jun 2016 #26

Only if we can't fix it. nt hack89 Jun 2016 #29

It is beyond fixing sarisataka Jun 2016 #31

It bothered me then. It bothers me now, that it has expanded as predicted. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #56

The new RW talking point is that sensible & rational gun laws take away "due process" baldguy Jun 2016 #7

Since a vast majority of those deaths are suicides, what role would due process play? aikoaiko Jun 2016 #8

As if suicides are less dead than the others... baldguy Jun 2016 #9

No they are not less dead. Do you know what due process is? Is that why you can't answer? aikoaiko Jun 2016 #10

Do you understand that it has nothing to do with due process? baldguy Jun 2016 #11

I never knew sarisataka Jun 2016 #12

The ACLU certainly isn't liberal or progressive in any stretch of the imagination. baldguy Jun 2016 #13

Oh that nasty freedom of speech sarisataka Jun 2016 #32

You mean people who actually have principles, and stick by them? You should learn something from em. X_Digger Jun 2016 #35

People who put their "principles" ahead of people's lives. baldguy Jun 2016 #39

Yeah, you would put "principles" in quotes, wouldn't you? X_Digger Jun 2016 #40

For principles to of any value you have to understand the **REASON** they exist. baldguy Jun 2016 #41

Yes, Mr. Orwell, Principles = Authoritarianism. X_Digger Jun 2016 #42

From someone who thinks the country's founders would condone mass murder as a civil right baldguy Jun 2016 #43

Oh look, you know how to stuff a straw man. Or did you buy it pre-stuffed? X_Digger Jun 2016 #45

You still can't recognize the Constitution when you see it. baldguy Jun 2016 #46

Like the right of free speech? Do I need to quote you above? X_Digger Jun 2016 #48

Your "principles" allow people to be killed unnessesarily. baldguy Jun 2016 #53

Again with the quotes? We get it, you don't have any principles of your own. X_Digger Jun 2016 #55

The "principles" you so judicially champion aren't principles at all. baldguy Jun 2016 #58

Nice red herring. We get it, there is no principle you won't throw away. X_Digger Jun 2016 #59

30,000+ gun deaths in America every year, and we're not supposed to be emotional? baldguy Jun 2016 #60

How do you think we got the patriot act in the first place? Fucking duh. X_Digger Jun 2016 #61

We got the Patriot Act by giving into unthinking, irrational fear, baldguy Jun 2016 #62

Emotional twaddle without principle led to the Patriot act. X_Digger Jun 2016 #63

A truly principled person would see innocents slaughtered & do everything they can to stop it. baldguy Jun 2016 #64

I see knee-jerk legislation (Patriot Act) as emotional twaddle. Your kind of thinking, dear. X_Digger Jun 2016 #65

You see human compassion and empathy as "emotional twaddle" baldguy Jun 2016 #66

Keep your fingers out of my mouth- my words come out just fine. X_Digger Jun 2016 #67

You object to having the ugly truth of your words exposed. baldguy Jun 2016 #68

No, it's called a straw man-- you're arguing with things you wish I'd said. X_Digger Jun 2016 #69

Is it any less fascist to push secret watch lists and the denial of due process? Marengo Jun 2016 #14

Fascism is subjecting people to physical harm & death as a way of inducing fear. baldguy Jun 2016 #15

It's also a fascist tactic to deprive people of legal rights, but I think you are okay with that. Marengo Jun 2016 #16

What legal rights? To be able to kill as many human beings as you can as quickly as possible? baldguy Jun 2016 #17

Is this some sort of performance routine? Due process, if you haven't been keeping up, Marengo Jun 2016 #18

The issue is guns. Weapons of mass murder - in the hands of demonstrably irresponsible people. baldguy Jun 2016 #24

So, you will be out protesting the no fly list? XRubicon Jun 2016 #23

Are you supporting the no fly list and the denial of due process? Marengo Jun 2016 #50

Jeezuz...really? LOL pipoman Jun 2016 #47

You're right. The NRA and the gun nuts that support their goals are fascist terrorists. baldguy Jun 2016 #52

Why are you concerned about due process now? the no fly list has been around for years. XRubicon Jun 2016 #22

The better question is why after sarisataka Jun 2016 #27

Sorry... no. XRubicon Jun 2016 #28

No what? sarisataka Jun 2016 #30

I don't see you in any of those posts XRubicon Jun 2016 #33

I will await your apology sarisataka Jun 2016 #34

Sorry. XRubicon Jun 2016 #36

Whether you believe me or not sarisataka Jun 2016 #38

Many suicides are by overdoses. JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #51

Yes, let's treat guns more like prescription drugs! baldguy Jun 2016 #54

Thank you for self identifying. XRubicon Jun 2016 #20

LOL pipoman Jun 2016 #44

LOL @ U XRubicon Jun 2016 #49

Amen to that! Initech Jun 2016 #19

... ailsagirl Jun 2016 #37

Glad no Democrats support the Terror Watch List's end-around of the 5th. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #57