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pampango

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45. I think that human rights, labor rights and environmental rights should not be subject

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 05:30 PM

Jun 2016

to the whim of caliber of politicians that get elected.

I would prefer that "shitty right wing" politicians not have the power to strip away these rights. That may be "undemocratic". So be it.

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I have very mixed feelings about Brexit [View all] Armstead Jun 2016 OP

I keep hearing that argument, I just don't buy it. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #1

Yup. Agschmid Jun 2016 #6

I said double-edged sword....and attidues are complex and paradoxical Armstead Jun 2016 #10

the voters were lied to and hoodwinked lapfog_1 Jun 2016 #26

Hey, they're right-wingers. If their lips are moving....... socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #27

There are many here who think Brexit was a blow to corporatization lapfog_1 Jun 2016 #28

Yeah, I've got some aquaintenances who think this......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #33

That nails it. truebrit71 Jun 2016 #37

We now live in a post factual democracy lapfog_1 Jun 2016 #38

in reality most people don't fit neatly in a demographic bin tk2kewl Jun 2016 #19

Racism and Xenophobia are a major part of this vote, not to mention rampant Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #21

I was watching the BBC today.... Armstead Jun 2016 #25

It is sad... Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #2

Agreed yourpaljoey Jun 2016 #4

Those can be excuses the bigots use treestar Jun 2016 #42

Well, the 'bigots' won... Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #44

Hopefully it forces a mature discussion of both the pros and cons of globalization. eom TransitJohn Jun 2016 #3

Right wing populism was fashionable in the '30s, too. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #5

However, it's misdirected anger. Zynx Jun 2016 #7

You may be right. Armstead Jun 2016 #13

Rejecting the EU for Westminster is hardly getting rid of "elite conventional wisdom." Brickbat Jun 2016 #8

No shit. truebrit71 Jun 2016 #11

Yup. Agschmid Jun 2016 #23

A hearty THIS nt auntpurl Jun 2016 #24

"mixed feelings" SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2016 #9

I was thinking the same thing. katsy Jun 2016 #12

I agree with part of that...But I see it as sharing both the power and the money more equitably Armstead Jun 2016 #15

Idk why my blinders were on. katsy Jun 2016 #16

As do I. nt LWolf Jun 2016 #14

Anti-Internationalism is not the same as Anti-Globalization Bad Thoughts Jun 2016 #17

Sorry, no. Rupert Murdoch's gutter print media and Fox News twin, ITV, have been whipping up Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #18

Excessive economic pressures add to bad instincts in the population Armstead Jun 2016 #20

Granted...point taken. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #22

Well, that's definitely what it wound up as..... socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #30

New meaning to the old saying -- "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face." Hoyt Jun 2016 #29

Or, as somebody put it in another thread: Curing the ingrown toenail by amputating the leg. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #32

Same here. My comrades in the UK supported "Remain"........ socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #31

It's a right wing 'populist revolt' of older, more conservative voters led by pampango Jun 2016 #34

Which edge would depend on what poiticians are elected Armstead Jun 2016 #40

I think that human rights, labor rights and environmental rights should not be subject pampango Jun 2016 #45

Shitty unaccountable conservative bureaucrats are just as bad Armstead Jun 2016 #57

Yeo "thanks grandpa"..... Person 2713 Jun 2016 #51

but it's kind of like saying that the identification of institutional problems is somehow... tandem5 Jun 2016 #35

Or we can elect good people with the smarts and correct intentions to... Armstead Jun 2016 #39

And that's one main utility of a republic, to counter uninformed populism... tandem5 Jun 2016 #47

Sometimes people can make the right choice for the wrong reasons daleo Jun 2016 #36

Britain is now in good position for the upcoming 3rd Greek bailout. roamer65 Jun 2016 #41

And... Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #46

Juncker is an undemocratic drunkard. roamer65 Jun 2016 #48

Exactly. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #50

My only thought so far has been shock. I didn't think the vote would go Brexit. MerryBlooms Jun 2016 #43

Oh for fuck's sake Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #49

Well said. Number23 Jun 2016 #52

Oh fer fucks sake yourself Armstead Jun 2016 #53

Yeah, I read it Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #54

You're entitled to your opinion Armstead Jun 2016 #55

I live in the UK, I've seen this firsthand Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #56

I'm a longtime BBC listener and watcher.... Armstead Jun 2016 #58

which hardly makes you as informed about the UK as someone who lives there. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #59