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onehandle

(51,122 posts) Sun Jun 26, 2016, 07:39 AM Jun 2016

On MSNBC yesterday a prominent Stonewall Veteran said, 'Rifles are instruments of hate.' [View all]

This gentleman was talking about the weapons used in the Orlando shooting. He was going to skip the Stonewall events this year, but felt compelled to attend because of Orlando.

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On MSNBC yesterday a prominent Stonewall Veteran said, 'Rifles are instruments of hate.' [View all] onehandle Jun 2016 OP

Anything can be an instrument of hate. Internet can be an instrument of hate. craigmatic Jun 2016 #1

Murders by rifles have been dropping. The number was 248 in 2014(most recent number) Press Virginia Jun 2016 #2

Nuancing numbers is more important than fighting hate against the LGBT community. onehandle Jun 2016 #7

Nuancing? Those are FBI statistics on homicides Press Virginia Jun 2016 #8

True facts are nuancing? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #10

Let's crunch those numbers Orrex Jun 2016 #12

When the numbers don't go your way, just move the goal post Press Virginia Jun 2016 #13

Are you talking to me or to yourself? Orrex Jun 2016 #14

See? When the numbers don't add up you want to expand the data set. It's the same reason Press Virginia Jun 2016 #16

You're gerrymandering Orrex Jun 2016 #17

No. Rifles are used to murder fewer people. Background checks can't stop accidents Press Virginia Jun 2016 #18

If you believe that suicides have nothing to do with gun violence... Orrex Jun 2016 #19

I suggest you look up the word violence Press Virginia Jun 2016 #20

You want to pretend that rifles are the entirety of the issue. Orrex Jun 2016 #21

Hahahahaha! The OP was a quote about rifles. AWBs are about rifles Press Virginia Jun 2016 #23

But you're pretending that there's no further discussion to be had Orrex Jun 2016 #24

I'm addressing the OP with facts. Press Virginia Jun 2016 #26

Odd....mine are instruments of family fun, sounds like his heart is in the wrong place. ileus Jun 2016 #3

It's an statement made from ignorance of actual statistics Press Virginia Jun 2016 #4

Words are the ultimate insturment of hate. Words change with context. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #5

+1. Hoyt Jun 2016 #6

You got all that from a sentence about rifles? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #9

not a big surprise Skittles Jun 2016 #41

that is pretty fucking sad Skittles Jun 2016 #40

How so/ Just reading posts Jun 2016 #45

The internet is much worse Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #11

Gun fetishes are disgusting. hunter Jun 2016 #15

Careful--you're likely to get a lecture from some high-minded gun advocate Orrex Jun 2016 #22

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #42

Fortunately for me none of that applies to me hack89 Jun 2016 #27

Some smokers just like to smoke. hunter Jun 2016 #30

Does every smoker have a tobacco fetish? nt hack89 Jun 2016 #32

Smoking fetishes are disgusting. Piss on cigarettes. hunter Jun 2016 #33

So does "gun love" equal all gun ownership? hack89 Jun 2016 #35

I'm sure smoking has some positive aspects... hunter Jun 2016 #36

ok. nt hack89 Jun 2016 #37

You couldn't piss on MY guns even if you tried. They're locked against children and crazy people. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #38

White men, conservatives, Republicans much more likely to own guns than other groups YoungDemCA Jun 2016 #25

Yet, gun "enthusiasts" will not accept that majority of gun owners are white wing racists. Hoyt Jun 2016 #28

i would not go that far, unless by majority, you mean 51%. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #29

Hunting not nearly as popular as NRA says, plus I don't care if someone has a gun or two AT HOME Hoyt Jun 2016 #31

People who "like to hunt" don't have an especially good reputation... hunter Jun 2016 #34

The hunters in your family don't like to hunt? Marengo Jun 2016 #39

You can document that with something other than a few pictures, of course....yes? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #46

Yes, the post I replied to has all the documentation you need, unless you believe GOPers Hoyt Jun 2016 #47

Going hunting is hate, now? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #43

When you are hunting humans in a gay bar on Latino night. Yes. nt onehandle Jun 2016 #44

The individual the OP quoted said "rifles are instruments of hate" with no qualifiers. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #48