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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts) Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:58 AM Jun 2016

Patrick Stewart: "We (the UK) don't need any lectures from the Frogs and the Krauts"...[sarc] [View all]

"We invented human rights for godssake. We should be writing our own Bill of Rights and foisting it on the Europeans"

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"Umm, we already have, sir."

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"We have? What's it called?"

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"The European Convention on Human Rights".

Oh, the breathtaking, head-shaking irony...

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Patrick Stewart: "We (the UK) don't need any lectures from the Frogs and the Krauts"...[sarc] [View all] Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 OP

I love Patrick Stewart. He's one of the few people in the Exilednight Jun 2016 #1

I have such a man crush on him... Glassunion Jun 2016 #49

Fab! n/t TubbersUK Jun 2016 #51

Our bill of rights was based on the Magna Carta. merrily Jun 2016 #2

That's the stark irony...the reviled "European Convention on Human Rights", Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #4

The Magna Carta was not common law. merrily Jun 2016 #6

It is the early founding reference for Common Law. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #8

Not really. merrily Jun 2016 #10

Yes, really. I don't know that I'd keep arguing against the historical origins of due process, but msanthrope Jun 2016 #11

Common law predates the Magna Carta. (No clue who is arguing against due process.) merrily Jun 2016 #12

Yes. But that wasn't the poster's point. I think you clearly missed that. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #17

See Replies 6 and 8. merrily Jun 2016 #18

Ah...there is your problem. You didn't understand the context. "Founding reference." msanthrope Jun 2016 #22

Since you claim to understand it and you also claim I didn't, your "request" seems bizarre. Pass. merrily Jun 2016 #24

Well....you claim the poster is using a word she is not using. msanthrope Jun 2016 #29

I quoted her words, and please see Reply 30. Thanks. merrily Jun 2016 #31

Thank you for proving my point with that quotation. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #33

As an iconic symbol, yes Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #13

It's iconic, but that does not mean common law was founded on it. None of your links merrily Jun 2016 #14

What original claim would that be? Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #15

The one you made in your Reply 8. You've been posting here long enough to follow a subthread. merrily Jun 2016 #16

Sura never said common law was founded on the MC. You seem to be conflating the concepts msanthrope Jun 2016 #19

Her post 8, in its entirety: "It {the Magna Carta} is the early founding reference for Common Law." merrily Jun 2016 #20

You seem confused by the difference between "foundation" msanthrope Jun 2016 #25

Still not interested in playing your game. merrily Jun 2016 #30

Not always easy following sub-threads. Not always easy responding to Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #21

I think the poster is confused as to what "Founding reference " means in this context..... msanthrope Jun 2016 #23

It would seem that there is some confusion, yes. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #26

Well.....when I pointed out you never used the word she is claiming you did, she passed. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #27

No surprise, I'm afraid. Much quick-drawing from that direction. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #35

Leaving the sandbox seems the current tactic. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #37

Boom! Mic drop! LOL! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #40

It was a point of info relating to one of the first lines of your OP merrily Jun 2016 #28

That was a quote from the sketch, spoken by Patrick Stewart, Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #34

Did British Common Law ever apply to the 'colonies'? malaise Jun 2016 #41

Sorry? What does the egregious flouting of British Common Law Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #43

They all failed to live up to those ideals malaise Jun 2016 #46

Couldn't agree more, absolutely spot on...BUT, that does not Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #47

That can be said about pretty much any society mythology Jun 2016 #52

Very funny but it reminds me of .Monty Python's "Life of Brian" underpants Jun 2016 #3

It reminded me of a different one... JHB Jun 2016 #9

If you watch the credits Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #32

Ah underpants Jun 2016 #39

I love this sketch. DeadLetterOffice Jun 2016 #5

Nobody could've done it so well. I'll bet he wrote the script, too. Quintessentially British. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #7

K & R n/t TubbersUK Jun 2016 #36

I saw this a few months ago. geardaddy Jun 2016 #38

Someone care to explain... Indydem Jun 2016 #42

That's the whole point. The Brits lent their principles of law to the EU Convention. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #45

Brexit touted the ECHR as an example TubbersUK Jun 2016 #48

K&R Solly Mack Jun 2016 #44

K&R Native Jun 2016 #50